I am fairly sure that I am being laid off with other Sr. Engineers tomorrow and need some ideas. Basically, I saw a calendar mistake by HR, so oops!
Meh. It’s gonna suck for a bit, but whatevers. Life is more important than a shit job. :)
Never have been laid off but in theory you could call in sick and they can’t fire you (in my country at least)
Leave a fish sandwich in your office drawer.
My office is in my basement. My cats love the idea though!
Come in sharply dressed with a top hat, cane, and unbreakable smirk
It’s going to be over Zoom, so it would be missing the full effect. Still, I might be able to slap an outfit together and even 3D print a monocle…
Hey, look at the bright side, now you can be fired in paris! I would wait for some more ideas before picking this one though, it’s rather uninspired
Since it is zoom you can focus all your energy from the waist up!
Something something cat filter https://youtu.be/lGOofzZOyl8?feature=shared
So I did the tuxedo thing when I left a job. Security wanted photos.
I told security that there are only two ways to leave if you know it’s going to be your last day: Head held high and dressed to the nines, or carried out by as many security guards as possible.
They thanked me for choosing the former.
Don’t go? I mean, you’re being fired, what’s the worst that can happen so just don’t go. Go for a walk in the woods or mountains while the company is paying you…
The worst that can happen is that your severance package is dependent on attending the exit interview.
Is that legally allowed. Reminds me of that NFL video of get saying “I’m only here so I get fined” https://youtu.be/rmABbHSOTqQ?si=7GseAxob1CPn2d5P
There is no requirement to provide severance at all in the US.
Unless it’s in the contract in which case it depends on the contract
And how many people have actual contracts? And no, your offer letter is not a contract.
Option 1: Be professional and polite.
Option 2: Scream Leeroy Jenkins and run through the door in the middle of it.
1/2 depends on how probable it is for you to need them in the future.
- Finish my ticket.
- Submit the PR.
- Log out.
- Mail back the laptop.
- Block and delete contacts.
No, pick up a bunch of issues and half complete them. Lol.
Calm down, satan
"That’s okay, I went on a job interview last week when I called out sick. I’ll be making more than you are when I start there.
If you live in Canada, absolutely do not do this. It can affect how much severance you’re entitled to.
I would steal the printer and go out to a field and stomp it to death.
PC LOAD LETTER my ass…
I wouldn’t.
Don’t burn bridges unnecessarily. You never know when a person involved will be somewhere in your future and leaving a good impression on them may have positive benefits.
YOLOing an exit interview and doing it Half Baked style means everyone’s last impression of you is very negative. And the only benefit you get it a bit of catharsis.
Instead, be polite and positive. Then go to Reddit and unleash hell.
I had a client do a back charge on me about 7 years ago. Found out that my current employer was going to hire them for a project. Sent a little email to the sales person and project manager
“I have worked with these guys. They are scammers. If you proceed with them get everything in writing”.
Guess who didn’t get the project.
Bring a lawyer to the meeting, just for fun. Let the hr person stew a bit. Ideally you will be offered a severance package, might as well have the lawyer check it out.
On my last day of a job I brought in chocolate for the office and did artwork on the whiteboard. Kind of just had banter and didn’t do too much work that day because… Why would I.
The last time I got laid off, that morning I had sent a PTO request to my boss for a family trip the following month.
I got called into said boss’ office for the afternoon meeting letting me know I was being laid off, which I had not been expecting at all. I was given the paperwork to sign, etc. and mostly silently acknowledged everything that was going on. When the boss finally asked if I had any further questions at the end of the meeting, I deadpanned “so, you’ve approved my request to not come in on _____ days next month?”
Always skip the exit interview if you can. It doesn’t help you or your former coworkers. It’s just an HR box-checking exercise.
Does it help your co workers?
If you got fired, no, probably not.
But if you quit then you can leave them a few clues as to why you’re leaving and how they might avoid losing more staff. That can help the people you left behind.
But if you quit then you can leave them a few clues as to why you’re leaving and how they might avoid losing more staff.
The reason I’m quitting is because they didn’t pick up the clues that I was looking to leave, and I don’t want to help them avoid losing more staff because of it. The people I left behind should take the hint if they were smart.
Just because I might be leaving doesn’t mean I want it keeping being a sucky workplace. Ideally I’d move on to something better for me, and people left behind might get an improvement as well.
Well sure, because they don’t do exit interviews for people who got fired.
I know it can feel good to speak your mind, and in an ideal world it would make some impact. It should make some impact. They should listen to people who leave. But they don’t. Because it’s not the purpose of the exercise. They don’t really care about your feedback. They care about the optics only. Remember HR is there to protect the company, not advocate for workers.
By all means if you want to waste your time go ahead and do an exit interview. There’s not much risk or harm in doing one (unless you make a complete ass out of yourself). But it’s really just there to prop up the thin veneer that HR and the corporate lawyers want businesses to hide behind.
At I place I worked they had a few useful people leave in a short time span. All left amicably. They took feedback from the exit interviews on board, and now they are redoing a bunch of the procedures to try and improve the way the workplace functions.
Keeping more people from quitting is helping the company.
Some companies in my experience do do exit interviews for people who are fired. This makes more sense when you realize exit interviews are mostly to give the company a heads up if they think you might try to sue them.
That makes sense. Never heard of it, but I believe you.
Exit interviews aren’t box checking exercises, they exist to give the company a heads up if the employee seems like they’re disgruntled and might try to sue. Always skip them, it only benefits the company that laid you off, nobody else.
Fair enough, but I think it really just depends on how you look at it. From my POV it’s just a box-checking exercise in the vast majority of cases, and a waste of your time (if you’re the one quitting). But you’re right, employers are super paranoid about this kind of thing (even though they have most of the power). If it is one of those disgruntled-gonna-sue people then you are right, it’s something they need to try to get out in front of.
Exit inerviews can be valuable and beneficial if the exit is on good terms all around.
I left my last job for a better-paying position elsewhere, but I still loved my old job and coworkers. It’s still the best job I ever had.
I couldn’t pass up a 50% raise and they couldn’t match it. No hard feelings or bruised egos. It’s just how things work out.
Having an honest conversation with HR about what worked and didn’t from an employee perspective with zero stakes for either of us was productive and informative.
thank you. Im all for sticking it to employers, but sharing feedback with a place you left on good terms from seems like a great way to maintain professional relationships. Also helps your old coworkers out.
Bad Jobs and Bad Employers Excluded obvi
Do you know if it was productive and informative for them?
For example, I left a job several years ago, and not long before I left, I met with the boss and explained some of the massive issues facing my department. He sounded interested, but of course he never did anything about those problems, and my former co-workers have told me that the situation is worse than it was before. In my observation, and that of my friends, this is what happens most of the time. After all, if they didn’t listen to you before, and especially if they didn’t ask you before, then why would we expect them to care what you say now?
I was very happy to do the exit interview at one particular job. I wanted to make it clear to HR that I wasn’t leaving because of the manager or the work or my co-workers but because they paid about 2/3 of the market rate in our area.
This was important to me because my manager and co-workers were great and it had gotten around to me that HR was eyeing our manager over having had a few people quit over the last year or two, when it was very clearly all about pay and nothing to do with him.
You did your manager a solid, because of the meme people quit managers not jobs.
Hire an emotional support clown. A man in new Zealand hired one because he thinks he was about to get fired.
https://nypost.com/2019/09/13/man-being-fired-brings-emotional-support-clown-to-meeting/
I’m impressed that so many people know ahead of time they are getting laid off. When I was laid off, and my friends were laid off, it was either a meeting with my manager and HR sneaking in at the last second, or a meeting with the CEO and HR, etc. Blindsighted, credentials inactive right away, can’t say goodbye to your coworkers.
Management is trying to make it a total surprise.
But for many people they can feel it coming. Projects are slowing down, money’s harder to find, initiatives are canceled, executives are moved around, the calendar is clear in to the future, no projects are being added to the ticketing system. There’s lots of little indicators to tell you what people are planning
After all these little signs that add up, giving you a bit of a red flag, then suddenly there is a meeting thrown on your calendar the next morning at 8:00 a.m. after you left for work the previous day. You put two and two together and you’ve got a strong confidence something’s going to happen
Mine was completely out of the blue, but I also wasn’t surprised as it was happening. I finished a project I wrote myself to replace an old system their other developers didn’t want to work on. They rewarded me by keeping me on for a couple months of post-launch support and then rewarded me by laying me off as a thanks, providing the bare minimum required payments as required by law. They likely replaced me with someone cheaper, which is impressive considering I was already underpaid for my level. I ended up getting a job paying 30% higher, but I honestly think I was still a little bit surprised when I proved I knew the old and new tech.
Realistically, that manager replaced me and some other developers with his friends, it was a cheap company rampant with nepotism especially on certain teams, but it was still a company with hundreds of employees so it was a bit surprising to see that.
