“All of your issues with ai go away if capitalism goes away”

What you’re calling AI is a mass marketing ponzy scheme. LLMs are not even actual AI. Beyond that issue, its development is in the hands of capital exclusively, and it will only exist to serve capital interests which come at the expense of the lower and working classes by necessity given what corporations (which are essentially unregulated in current climates) are designed to do. What you’re calling AI will only be used to hurt human lives and worsen living conditions for all of us (before you nitpick, I think enabling the 0.1% and their hoarding pathology hurts them too). I personally believe you’re already aware of that and are cynically trolling, and despite that I’m giving you the honest truth and factual reality of this subject because there is nothing good about being a techno-fetishist sociopath who thinks the answer to humanity’s problems is to make humanity itself obsolete, even if it’s ‘cool’. You clearly got the wrong fucking message from Terminator.

This is why when actual AI emerges I can only hope it’ll be in the hands of a public or collective development process and designed with an intent of progression and cooperation in mind.

I will preface this with my usual disclaimer on such topics: I do not believe in intellectual property (that is, the likening of thought to physical possessions). I do not think remixing is a sin and I largely agree with the Electronic Frontier Foundation’s take that “AI training” may largely be fair use. So, I don’t think so-called “generative AI” is inherently evil, however in practice I think it is very often used for evil today.

The most obvious example is, of course, the threat to the work force. “AI” is pitched as a tool that can replace human workers and “wipe out entire categories of human jobs.” Ethical issues aside, “AI” as it exists today is not capable of doing what its evangelists sell it as. “AI chat bots” do not know, but they can give off a very convincing impression of knowledge.

“AI” is also used as a tool to pollute the web with worse-than-worthless garbage. At best it is meaningless and at worst it is actively harmful. I would actually say machine generated text is worse than imagery here, because it feels almost impossible to do a web search without running into some LLM generated blog spam.

Creators of “AI” systems use scraper bots to collect data for training. I do not necessarily believe this is evil per se, but again - these bots are not well behaved. They cause real problems for real human users, far beyond “stealing jpegs.” There is a sense of Silicon Valley entitlement here - we can do whatever we want and deal with the consequences later, or never.

I have long held that a tool, like any human creation, is imbued with the values and will of its creators, and thus must serve both the creator and the user as its masters (The software freedom movement is largely an attempt at reconciling these interests, by empowering users with the ability to change their tools to do their bidding). In the case of “Generative AI” it is very often the case that both the creators and users of these tools intend them for evil. We often make the mistake of attributing agency to these computer programs, so as to minimize the human element (perhaps, in order to create a “man vs machine” narrative). We speak of “AI” as if it just woke up one day, a la Skynet, in order to steal our jpegs and put us out of work and generate mountains of webslurry. Make no mistake, however - the problems with “AI” are human problems. Humans created these systems in order for other humans to use, in order to inflict harm to other humans. “AI slop” was created specifically for an environment in which human-generated slop already ran amok, because the web as it existed then (as it exists today) rewards the generation of slop.

Valid question on a community for questions. Tons of legitimate responses from people mostly hyped for the opportunity to shed light on why they think AI is bad. Which seems to be what OP wanted to figure out. Currently negative 25 for the votes on the post. Seems off.

because this: https://chicago.suntimes.com/consumer-affairs/2025/07/22/comed-electric-bills-hike-ai-data-centers-artificial-intelligence-power-pjm

also because its just a way for big tech to harvest your data while stilling content from creators and destroying the planet

also because instead of actually innovating any more tech companies just jam ai slop in everything

current AI is absolutely not better than sci-fi AI, not by a long shot.

I do think LLMs are interesting and have neat potential for highly specific applications, though I also have many ethical concerns regarding the data it is being trained on. AI is a corporate buzzword designed to attract investment, and nothing more.

Its not smart. Its a theft engine that averages information and confidently speaks hallucinations insisting its fact. AI sucks. It wont ever be AGI because it doesn’t “think”, it runs models and averages. Its autocomplete at huge scale. It burns the earth and produces absolute garbage.

The only LLMs doing anything good are because averaging large data models was good for a specific case, like looking at millions of cancer images and looking at averages.

This does not work for deterministic answers. The “AI” we have now is corporate bullshit they are desperate to have make money and is a massive investor hype machine.

Stop believing the shitty CEOs.

I think AI is cool, but how people use it can be problematic.

1. Fraud. Its easy to over-represent the capabilities and sell a bullshit tool to people.

2. Spyware. They require shedloads of data to train so AI companies are doing whatever they can to get data on people.

3. Taking Jobs. This is an existential threat to entire professions.

4. Spam. LLMs are a bullshit factory, so spamming and astroturfing are easier than ever.

Lots of good points in the replies here, but I want to make the perhaps secondary point that the automation of thought is generally just bad for you. Dgmw AI (even LLMs) has its uses, but we’re already seeing the atrophying effects on some people, and in my experience as a teacher I have seen a number of people for whom chat bot dependency has become a serious problem on a par with drug addiction. I dread to think what’s going to happen to these people when we enter the ‘jack up the prices’ phase of the grift, let alone the ‘have you considered product/voting X may solve your problems’ phase, which is currently only being held back by engineering difficulties.

What’s cool about it? How does it actually resemble conciousness?

OK remember like 70 years ago when they started saying we were burning the planet? And then like 50 years ago they were like “no guys we’re really burning the planet”? And then 30 years ago they were like “seriously we’re close to our last chance to not burn the planet”? and then in the past few years they’ve been like “the planet is currently burning, species are going extinct, and we are beginning to experience permanent effects that might not snowball into an extinction event if we act right now?”
But sure, AI is really cool and can trick you, personally into thinking it’s conscious. It’s just using nearly as much power as the whole of Japan, but you’re giggling and clapping along, so how bad can it really be? It’s just poisoning the air and water to serve you nearly accurate information, when you could have had accurate information by googling it for a fraction of the energy cost.

I hate AI because I’m a responsible adult.

I myself despise capitalism, and would not like to see the current global ecological disaster worsen because some stupid-ass techbros forcing their shit on everyone.

ai is basically just a fancier google search that uses a shitload of energy and has no guarantee of accuracy. ai in movies is way more impressive and fantastical.

look at what happens when ai tries to actually do anything. for example self driving. it just sucks. its not actually intelligent at all.

If you think that AI closely resembles a conscious flesh and blood human being you need to go outside more. That is a dangerous line of thinking and people are forming relationships with a shoddy simulacrum of humanity because of it. AI is still in it’s early conception and it’s only a matter of time before someone’s grok waifu convinces them to shoot up a school.

When you say it’s remarkable how close it can resemble actual consciousness, what do you mean?