• Pulptastic@midwest.social
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    6 months ago

    Do the copper IEDs have negative side effects? I thought the objection to those was purely moral.

    Edit: I meant IUD lol

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      6 months ago

      Yep.

      Firstly: Disregarding the discomfort of having to see the doctor and having something shoved inside your body is a weird mistake, especially men tend to make regularly when talking about those things. Having your genitals exposed to and then painfully tampered with by what is ultimately a stranger isn’t a thing most people would describe as a pleasant afternoon activity.

      The side effects aren’t just from hormones. Imagine having to do a prostate exam every 6 months and a metal plug shoved close to your prostate through your urethra every few years (not the same, of course, just an attempt at an analogy, since men are one hole short down there). Wouldn’t you dislike that? Many women are really sensitive around their cervix and implanting the IUD can therefore be really painful.

      Secondly: Period cramps increase in severity, bleeding increases for most people, and there are hints that those IUDs can increase the risk for cysts, which in turn cause issues, pain and sometimes need surgical removal.

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        6 months ago

        Period cramps increase in severity, bleeding increases for most people

        The two women I dated that had an implanted IUD legit didn’t have a period anymore. So not only was the bleeding and cramps not worse, they simply didn’t exist.

        You honestly seem to just trying to be pushing some agenda, possibly because you had a bad experience and you’re assuming that’s just the way it is for everyone, when the reality is it’s pretty rare.

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          6 months ago
          1. why is your experience the norm and what I say “pretty rare” not the other way around? Or do you consider “two women I know” a representative group? Are “two women I knew” more significant than what professionals will tell you?

          Paragard side effects can include:

          spotting between periods
          
          irregular periods
          
          heavier or longer periods
          
          more or worse cramping during your periods
          
          pain when your IUD is put in, and cramping or back aches for a few days after 
          

          https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/birth-control/iud/iud-side-effects

          1. Was that a copper IUD (which was what I wrote about) or a hormonal IUD?
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          6 months ago

          Periods going away or getting lighter is a side affect of hormonal IUDs. Copper IUDs have no mechanism to make them go away, and seem to pretty commonly make cramps and bleeding worse. .

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      6 months ago

      My wife got bad repeated infections and had a lot of pain from the copper iud.

      If you go looking for testimonials you’ll find numerous people who had bad experiences with it.

      Also, they really should offer anesthetic or at least a powerful painkiller for the insertion and removal procedures. Doctors act like it’s no big deal, but it’s very painful.

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        6 months ago

        Yet another case of the medical industry not caring one iota about women and women’s ability to identify what is going on with their own bodies. The number of times I’ve heard of doctors dismissing women’s pain and issues makes me want to scream.

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      6 months ago

      IEDs have very negative effects, but you wouldn’t really call them side-effects.

      And IUDs involve surgery which has its own risks including perforating the uterus, plus they can become infected and cause sepsis which is deadly, plus in general infections suck. Some women suffer immense pain which may or may not be ignored by their doctors. They also do release hormones which have fewer side effects because they’re more local, but they’re not side effect free.

      Many of these issues were much worse in the earlier days, where many women died or suffered serious illness and permanent infertility whilst doctors didn’t take them seriously because women are often ignored by doctors where men would not be. So the level of safety the devices now have was bought with a lot of women’s unnecessary suffering.

      https://www.verywellhealth.com/iud-risks-and-complications-906766