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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/15988326
Windows 10 will reach end of support on October 14, 2025. The current version, 22H2, will be the final version of Windows 10, and all editions will remain in support with monthly security update releases through that date. Existing LTSC releases will continue to receive updates beyond that date based on their specific lifecycles.
Source: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/products/windows-10-home-and-pro
If memory serves me, they usually do 5 years of extended support after they retire an os, so, I’m just going to wait and see.
I have an ancient PC with a nice video card, and it plays games from about five years ago quite well I haven’t felt a need to upgrade. Unfortunately, I play a couple games with kernel level anti-cheat stuff and I don’t think they will work with linux.
They will not but that is not a linux’ fault, developer/owner/publisher made that choice.
What’s wild is that one of the people who write anti-cheat software was saying they needed to get their shit working on Linux like yesterday.
So I mean, it crazy that Windows is literally having some folks scramble on how to get their shit working on Steam/Linux.
I am using windows on my desktop mainly for gaming and with proton even that wouldn’t be necessary but there are times when you need to execute a windows binary and it would take less time to just use windows. So after october 2025 I will try to use KVM with PCI passthrough. I imagine another advantage will be to not have windows accessing my hardware and be able to snapshot the drives plus running all the windows traffic about my vpn without relying on software inside windows.
Microsoft won’t let me upgrade with an i7 6700K
That thing must be as slow as a Pentium 3, it obviously can’t run a features packed OS like Win11. Go install Windows XP you dirt poor person. /s
Same exact cpu. It’s a tpm issue. You might be able to “solve” it with some simple bios setting but some would consider it already fixed. I have.
I’ve decided I’m gonna have one crapbox prebuilt just for the windows things and nothing important or personal, but my work laptop and pc will most certainly not be windows going forward. I have a lot to learn but I’m over it with the ads and the privacy stuff is a genuine concern for work related items.
I don’t really know what I’ll do. I currently have to dual boot windows 10 for work since I do unreal game dev. I guess push for managers to allow me to setup a Linux dev env? But Linux binaries for third party plugins arent always there. That’s where I got stuck last time I tried.
I’ve heard you can pay to continue updates on Win10 for three years I believe it was.
Yeah but who is going to do that outside business customers with strict requirements? Raise your hand if you ever even paid for a Windows license in the first place (other than one that came with the PC).
What a coincidence. I had to install a W11 machine for a relative. The amount of backward decision in the first 20 minutes of checking the settings is mind boggling. Really? Can’t open the start menu on “all apps”? Not even an option?
I got a new machine and put windows on it and the amount of registry tweaks to get it even close to my windows 10 is ridiculous. Significantly more than what I had to do to 10 to make it a bit more like 7 back in the day. (I know i know get linux, but you can’t play Dragon Ball FighterZ online with linux and that’s the game I play the most)
Fortunately, the number of Linux compatible games is increasing, and companies are actually considering Linux support now for games. I doubt that particular game will get Linux multiplayer support (who knows!), but maybe the next game you get into will!
So for anyone else who reads this: give Linux a shot! If it doesn’t work for your games, try again in a year or so.
Oh 100% give Linux a try. I run pop-os on my 10 year old gaming laptop and it runs way better than it ever did on windows. I’m sure if I put Linux on my desktop it would be even better. I just play too much dbfz and the console version has way too much latency for me to have fun on it anymore
Windows has been more about telling you what you want instead of being intuitive for a few iterations now.
“Intuitive” is basically telling you what you want and being right about it.
The opposite of telling you what you want isn’t being intuitive, it’s being flexible and customizable.
Ok sure. But I think we can all agree when we click the start menu we don’t want “recommended” apps. I don’t want to click start and click apps to see the list.
I also can’t be the only one that hates clicking start or pressing the windows key and typing in “word” or something then have it taken a bazillion years to search the web, and have hit or miss results or whether it suggests the app or some shitty web results.
It’s also counter intuitive to remove features that already exist. Like right clicking the start button for useful shortcuts. Or right clicking the task bar for other things like the task manager (which they ended up bringing back, surprisingly). They also removed moving the task bar. These are things that already existed. They removed them. They didn’t need to rebuild them. They were deliberate.
I wonder if it would make sense to sell 4090 and buy cheaper amd card before Linux switch. Problem is I from time to time play VR and also do blender sometimes so probably can’t. Does nv optix work in Linux ver of blender?
I don’t know how good it is, but for Turing and later GPUs there’s a new official open source driver being developed. You’d likely have to use a more bleeding edge distro to get that.
VR works depending on your headset. Index is fine, Oculus doesn’t work.
You could make a usb stick of your desired distro and test everything without permanent changes before commiting.
Yep optix works on Linux. Blender is also generally faster in Linux btw.
Try Bazzite and see if that works for you. They are focused on gaming and hardware support.
Excited to see the increase in Linux desktop usage.
I’m already seeing more traffic across reddit and youtube
I’d temper those expectations tbh. I’ve still got customers on Windows XP.
Out of support does not mean “can’t be used”.
“Finally freed of those pesky Windows updates!”
I agree. But using Windows XP these days is a huge security risk. W10 not getting security updates at least for the next 2 years is probably something that can be overlooked, but it will at some point be vulnerable to automatic attacks like XP. I’m sure there are some websites on the web that try to automatically exploit some major exploits that have been lrft unfixed in Windows XP. I’d advise them to switch to Linux Mint or something instead of using that old vulnerable system.
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The browser is the failure point and they get updated for a long time after the OS falls out of support. Chrome was supported for 8 years after Windows 7 stopped being officially supported.
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All their Windows software they need to run their business isn’t going to run reliably enough on any version of Linux. They don’t want to touch anything that’s working or pay for anything. You have to understand the world is not filled with OS enthusiasts. It’s just a platform to run other things. If it’s working and it’s making you money, you do not touch it, unless you really want to find out what OS they use at the Job Centre.
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“Finally freed of those pesky Windows updates!”
I have an elderly friend that I will probably need to migrate as 1 of their 2 computers doesn’t support win11. I am fully able to migrate them, but I really want it themed(Plasma6 probably ) to look as much like 10 as they a dealing with cognitive decline and I don’t want to force them to relearn using their computer.
I need to start investigating, but I got over a year to do so. The other part is making sure the 2 pieces of proprietary software they use runs in wine. I expect both will, but need to check.
This is obviously something that developers probably don’t think about as much as an accessibility issue in general.
Yeah KDE Plasma looks and functions alot like W10.
I was thinking about this the other day. I support some very, very technologically limited users and I wondered if anyone out there is working on a distro/DE that looks and feels just enough like windows to get them by
I would never have considered this before they announced Recall. Now it feels like I’m waiting to see just how hard they push it
I’m typing this from Linux mint, I play mainly video games and websurf but I choose this distro for the community support! Since I don’t know everything about linux I go here on lemmy, or reach out to the members via hexchat
You might want to check our React OS.
We recommend moving to linux eheh (͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Windows 10 21H2 LTSC IoT support ends in 13th Jan 2032. Just saying.
Or Arch…
And where does one get LTSC?
Yarr, matey.
I’d recommend asking around lemmy.dbzer0.com, in the sailing community.
But it’d be easier to switch to Linux Mint, if you don’t have a critical windows app that doesn’t work in wine.
Ooooo thanks
I’m worried about my Steam library. Steam ended support for Windows 7 not long ago. How long will they Support Windows 10?
You should be worried about being on any Windows computer connected to the Internet that Microsoft is no longer patching period…
Only 3% of Windows users are on Windows 7. Compared to 70% on Windows 10. When that number drops significantly, that’s around the time I’d expect Steam to drop. They’ll go where their customers go.
Its the Data harvesting that’s irking me. Not that data harvesting is new; but that i have a dreadful sense of M$’ “AI” scheming just crosses a rubicon of data harvesting.
I’m backing away slowly. Dont care what games or executables i wont be able to run. Get ready for the accusations that im the “radical arch-loving myopic lemmy elite”: it’s finally time to run *nix as host.
Soon, you’ll be saying “i use arch btw”. It’s only a matter of time. >:D
Dont care what games or executables i wont be able to run
Between Wine and Proton that’s basically a non issue anymore, go ahead and make the switch. The era of windows exclusive software is pretty much over.