• TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml
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    Was this the meaning of SaveEurope trend? I did not know Europe was not the saviour of the world, as some brainwashed libs tend to believe. Europe is just like USA or Australia as far as privacy goes.

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    Thie is a ‘must read’ article and should be trending tonreach as many people as possible.

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    This proposal is bonkers. Imagine aaaall the nudes that will have to be manually assessed by police (until they outsource it because it’s cheaper), and then you have to believe they won’t keep anything and that there are zero bad apples.

    Besides, if the tools are already in place in the apps, it’s only a question of time before the detection system is repurposed for censorship of anything a totalitarian leaning government doesn’t like. Memes about our dear leader? I’m afraid we can’t allow that !

    You can’t have a backdoor that works for the good guys only.

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      repurposed for censorship of anything a totalitarian leaning government doesn’t like

      It’s basically guaranteed they use it against critical journalists, political opponents and activists right out of the gate. It’s what always happens when they get the ability to spy on citizens. And the real criminals move to unofficial encrypted platforms mostly out of reach of law enforcement.

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    The funny thing is that most of those pedophiles who share CP or any of that child sexual shit on the internet don’t use your casual normie’s messaging apps like WhatsApp or Telegram. If they find out that the EU can now request decryption keys to decrypt their stuff, then they’ll switch to something which can’t be circumvented and probably start encrypting the messages manually instead. The smarter ones probably already started out like that without trusting any provider in the first place. The only ones that’ll get caught in this chat control bullshit are the retarded ones. Didn’t think a region that was all pro-privacy with their GDPR and their DMA and stuff would actually agree to this.

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      The contradictory goals for privacy displayed here are caused by corporations and intelligence agencies lobbying behind closed doors to get that data. And with the think of the children / anti pedophilia rhetoric people blindly agree. Because who wants to be against something that helps to protect kids right?

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      There’s thee things wrong with "please think of the children: 1. They’re not really asking 2. They don’t want you to think 3. It has nothing to do with the children.

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      I think pepole on lemmy vastly overestimate how incredibly non technical the vast majority of population is. Including potential criminals. Still a stupid law tho.

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    Basically all service providers in the EU will be forced to change their terms of service that all users will have to agree to in order to continue using the service. You will simply get an “updated terms service” notification with a link and one big “OK” button and nothing else. If you follow the link to the terms of service, somewhere deep down (like page 276 of 389) it will says “I agree to be monitored”. You now have the choice to uninstall the app or to click “OK”. It’s basically everything. Obviously Google, Outlook, Yahoo etc and all the Chat apps (Signal, Telegram, Whatsapp) etc. So “Consent” is not really optional if you want to use any internet service, they can just pretend that it is so that can go on an uncontrolled unwarranted spying rampage against everyone and of course for everything.

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      Nevermind that even if not consenting was an option, this law would still enforce the compromising of all secure communication.

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        Yeah, even if zero people ever consented the ability to defeat end to end exception would still be required in the software just in case someone ever did consent. That’s all governments need to bring their other powers down on companies. They can spy on whoever they like with this.

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      In Germany we have the wahl-o-mat, translates roughly into elect-o-mat.

      This is a website loaded with all available parties and their political demands. You then answer a few dozen questions to identify your own opinions on the different subjects and then runs a comparison. You then end up with a tiered list of political parties you align with the most.

      Perhaps a similar tool exists for other languages and countries as well

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      lol i thought you EU boys’ government was so amazing and cared so much about privacy! lol!

      You will not hear me bragging or applauding about EU except that the GDPR did bring about some positive changes. And if you ask me I wonder what is happening with all the millions of money from the fines that EU gave to Big Tech companies. EU basically claims that they have no money to keep a Fediverse server running. Puzzling.

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        Peertube this is a project that killed itself. I laugh at them. they had so many fucking instances and NONE of them allowed registration when i tried to get into it. fuck peertube.

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    Based on a new proposal by the Belgian Minister

    It took me a minute to figure out what is supposed to be “new” about it. Apparently they still want a back door to all your encrypted messaging, but they promise not to use it to look at text, only images. I guess the idea is that people are becoming aware that the current “AI” systems are not really capable of understanding language well enough to do what is wanted here, but many haven’t yet caught on to the fact that they’re also sufficiently bad at discerning the meaning of images.

    I wonder how much worse things would be if AI actually could do these things.