thanks for replying, this is an upsetting topic for me and it’s probably not you, it’s just me after everything

This sounds correct. Thank you.

This explains why MyCare is doing this. Because technically there’s a HIPPA exception to allow them to do this, so it’s not a violation of HIPPA. I should have realized this, but didn’t.

I am not sure asking the evil hospital to restrict access to their records will work because it’s showing in MyChart as a former address but I’m not sure other places have the information. The problem is the address is associated with that psychiatric facility and may show in my chart as “Mental Health Behavior Modification Hospital,” it has a name that makes it clear what it is, and so doctors may refuse to treat me without a release of those records, leading to lots of hours billed talking about mental health instead of seeing if I have cancer. I also will refuse any mental health screenings/questionnaires, etc., and so it may result in them refusing to care for me.

I don’t think a lawyer would say anything other than file a complaint with the OCR. It seems unlikely I could sue for damages. I could at best sue for emotional distress, if HIPPA violations allow for that and they probably don’t, and to do that I would need to prove emotion, which a court would say requires a mental health expert. Pass.

And FWIW, I don’t think it’s especially cool to go at someone who seems to be honestly sharing their advice.

It felt like gaslighting to me. Like, “Oh, well, you must be a moron and this nice hospital is right and you’re just too simple to understand the forms.” It sort of felt like the same logic I often got at that awful place, he has a rhinoplasty name, which likely means he’s a doctor.

I don’t really think it’s dishonest to call doctors vultures; they financially exploit people in vulnerable positions for exorbitant fees while the AMA makes it hard for the many people who want to become doctors to practice by limiting medical school entrances and also not allowing tiers of medical specialists to alleviate costs. Pharmacists could easily prescribe certain medications. I think doctors are often very polite vultures, but vultures none the same. They do things to limit competition when there is an extremely inelastic need for some of their services; it’s the definition of corrupt.

But I suppose he may not be a doctor, so in that sense you’re right, I shouldn’t have accused him of being one, but this didn’t feel like advice to me, but more likely a defense of other doctors and hospital workers.

I could be totally wrong however. Maybe she’s a professional golfer, randomly had a rhinoplasty, and was just offering an opinion.

Upon further reflection, you may be right: this is a very anger-inducing topic for me, but it’s not like he was the one who treated me poorly there or killed the woman i met there due to neglect, or lead to the beatings and killings that took place there. I’ll edit the post.

I am trying to do that, but they haven’t responded. I already emailed them, including emailing them a copy of the complaint I am sending the Office for Civil Rights (OCR). Ideally, I could do this without actually filing a federal complaint, because with the current political environment it’s very uncertain how that information will be used. But if they don’t respond, and it’s Monday morning, I’m sending the complaint in, and then they can deal with OCR instead of me.

I suspect they will say they are required to keep health care information and aren’t allowed to delete it, leaving OCR as my only recourse.

No, I never signed any of the forms when I was initially involuntarily admitted. They said I was required to sign some forms and I refused because I thought they could have some sort of legal impact and I didn’t have a lawyer with me. Some of them were things about charging me fees.

They told me I had to, and that the forms didn’t change anything, and I still refused to sign.

I absolutely did not sign forms when I entered. It was only after I felt the threat of death that I occasionally signed things, and I did not sign anything saying they could release my information to something called MyChart.

You probably think I’m an idiot because I went to a psychiatric facility, but my IQ has tested as a 130 in a controlled setting and I generally have a very specific memory.

They also did not use electronic records when I was there, although that’s likely changed now. You’re wrong.

There is no link like that. I also do not want this place to have ANY current information on me. If you escaped the clutches of a bear attack, you don’t go back and poke the bear with a stick… or poke the IT guy working for the bear. No way, I will not interact with that place or any psychiatric/psychological mental health agency or person connected to that field ever again after how I was treated.

They kept many people in that hospital until they died, including many people who came in psychotic and stopped being psychotic a month or two later, and I also believed during my forced stay I would die there. I only got out through subterfuge. I keep my address a secret because of that hospital, I am afraid to get medical care because of that hospital. I do not think it would be smart to talk with them directly. I hate them, I also am not sure I could contain my rage at them for all the horrible ways they treated me and others if I were to interact with them verbally. They also lie often and I wouldn’t be willing to talk with them unless it was on a recorded line.

That information was shared by EPIC without my authorization. I shouldn’t have to interact with a facility that was emotionally abusive, forcing me to share trauma in group therapy with prejudiced people I hated and with rotating clinicians on threat of death, just to remove information that I never allowed.

I also was forced to sign many things during my stay under threat of death, because they moved the non-compliant patients to the violent area of the facility in which they kept the habitually violent patients. So they didn’t directly physically abuse patients, they just sent the patients who didn’t do what they said to areas of the facility where they would be very likely to be abused by unstable violent patients. Many patients in these areas were assaulted, killings weren’t often but they happened enough that I felt like many things I either had to sign or risk death. I don’t think I signed off on MyChart, however. They did once treat something outside the facility and made me sign forms. It was the sort of thing where if you even tried to slow down to read it they would accuse you of being “manipulative” and increase the amount of tranquilizers you were forced to take (lest you wish to be moved to the violent areas of the facility).

I would rather file a federal complaint against Epic Systems for the Office of Civil Rights, since they never got my explicit authorization and they are the ones sharing information, which I absolutely did not consent to. It just is awful because I worry about the awful facility being looped in and trying to ensnare me again. I also did contact Epic Systems by email but did not receive any reply.

It’s terribly reductive, but I would prefer anything rather than getting ensnared by the mental health system again. I’ll probably just forgo medical care and if these problems keep causing me pain, I’ll just find a heroin dealer, get heroin, check out. It’s too risky to interact with them, they psychologically tortured people there, for me death is a preferable option to having to interact with the mental health system after that, and any medical care I get with links to that facility could result in involuntary care. I’ll just deal with the pain until I can’t anymore.