CommunistCuddlefish [she/her]

*people can construct, not you specifically. But maybe you, I don’t know.

Are you going to read or think about the comment or are we done here?

You can construct a trolley problem to justify anything you want. It’s about the constraints that the person who posed the question chose. You don’t really get to choose in a trolley problem. The constraints choose for you. In the real world, our options are not so constrained and the outcomes are not so clear. As such it is useless for actually figuring out what to do.

The trolley problem is a useful basic philosophical experiment to get people to think about things and reflect on constraints, assumptions, and values. And often the best response is in fact “fuck these constraints and assumptions!”

So the trolley problem is not bullshit, but it is very very often misapplied in a bullshit or bad faith way, for example last year in the US I saw a lot of liberals uncritically and unironically appeal to “the trolley problem” to rationalize voting for the party that was committing a live-streamed Holocaust. They were using it to absolve themselves of the responsibility to think about and own their moral judgements, and that is the sort of misuse that a lot of people balk at.

Bro what? Have you not read anything in this thread?

https://hexbear.net/comment/6223363

Isntreal is a military base masquerading as a country.

Because that’s not in the US empire’s interests

It does but the lobby wouldn’t be allowed to exist if Isntreal weren’t a useful tool for the US-aligned empire. The lobby is a how, not a why.

I don’t think Epstein dirt is that powerful. We live in a post-truth time. Powerful men have been getting away withremoved kids for a long time, see Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin for a less political example.

Tlaib is the only member of the so-called far-left “Squad” that has not endorsed Harris. The other three members — U.S. Reps. Ayanna Pressley from Massachusetts, Ilhan Omar of Minnesota and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York — endorsed Harris in July after Biden announced he was dropping out of the race.

I missed that Ilhan had endorsed Kdolf Hitler, very disappointing.

Would you support him banning AmeriKKKan and Isn’treali developers too, given that their countries’ war crimes are far grander in scale, horror, and devastation than Russia’s?

Nah she could still get my vote. It’s just that the longer the genocide goes on the higher the price rises. At the start, she could have earned my vote by denouncing Biden and the genocide and demanding an arms embargo to the genocidal ethnostate, then consistently held that position, resigned from the VP position in protest, attempted a citizen’s arrest or Genocide Joe, anything. Instead she’s steadfastly supported genocide. Now at this point, to earn my vote, she’ll have to do all that AND sign legally binding documents promising to invade Israel on day 1 of her presidency to overthrow the genocidal apartheid regime and turn it over to a coalition of all Palestinian resistance groups

Thing about material reality is that it always wins in the end. You can spin a narrative for a while, but sooner or later you have to reconcile it with what’s actually happening in the world.

Well said

Your fear is correct, I’ve seen liberal Nazis salivating about it on reddit. They really hate Muslims.

Nothing to be done about that though. They were going yo turn on Muslims anyway. There can never be safety in collaborating with Nazis

So all the escalations and violence from NATO that preceded the official start of the war don’t count?

If you do a thing that you know is going to lead to war then you’re starting the war. And NATO knew its brinkmanship with Ukraine was very likely to force Russia’s hand – analysts across the political spectrum were screaming it for years trying to sound the alarm. The mistake they made was assuming NATO would care to avoid war.

NATO led Ukraine into war, has fed Ukrainians into the abattoir of Russian artillery, sabotaged peace talks, and just generally clearly gives 0 fucks about Ukrainian lives.

Before I go off on you, are you serious or are you doing a bit? I don’t want to friendly fire

Clearly not a bit. Go fuck yourself.

Incorrect. The correct answer is C, NATO expansionism, something you should know because a bunch of people have already explained it to you

Pop quiz time: Who started the war? Was it

A. Russia?

B. Ukraine?

C. NATO on behalf of the US Empire

Go fuck yourself, plague rat

If only. I’d rather they sit around and do nothing than imprison, torture, and murder refugees at the border

Hey quick question what are you doing minimizing genocide with “owl” in your name?! 'Round these here parts “owl” signifies someone of exceptional integrity and basedness, which you clearly lack.

Love to see it. Even my mom, who used to call herself a “proud democrat” since getting citizenship here, won’t be voting this election.

7% too many, but inshallah the Democrats lose for embracing genocide.