• thermal_shock@lemmy.world
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    “I remain focused on cutting the flow of US munitions that are being used to perpetuate the genocide in Gaza”

    Uh, wtf is this title?

  • TheLepidopterists [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    The idea that defensive weapons don’t expand your ability to kill is so obviously false. It’s disrespectful to expect people not to realize that.

    The world has understand MAD for almost a century. Someone who feels safe from reprisal is more likely to engage in violence. Someone who knows they could be harmed in a fight is less likely to start one.

    Fuck AOC, she’s not stupid, she knows this. She just literally doesn’t care about Israel committing genocide. Nazi enabler.

  • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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    A nuanced position aimed at reducing civilian casualties regardless of where they live and their ethnicity?

    /s of course.

    Seriously, tankies can fuck right off until they gain enough understanding about how the nuanced details of this impact how a defensive IADS system operates.

  • frogbellyratbone_ [e/em/eir, any]@hexbear.net
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    okay… so why not vote for the amendment to cut off Iron Dome? or is her “worry” that with Iron Dome cut off in the bill, more of the House will vote to continue the bill which still includes munitions flow - to which she is against?

    i’m being very charitable to her, but that seems to be what she’s arguing?

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      My charitable take: Her worry is that in the event of Iron Dome funding being cut off, Israel would run a massive propaganda campaign blaming AOC specifically for every death in Israel.

      However, If she truly believes what she says, I think she’s being very naive. The Iron Dome allows Israel to confidently bomb its neighbors without having to worry about consequences. No one is attacking Israel out of the blue (yes, that includes October 7th). Event the recent “war” with Iran was started by Israel.

      The best defensive measures that Israel could take:

      1. Stop its apartheid and give every citizen equal rights
      2. Stop committing terror in the region (i.e. blowing up entire apartment buildings to kill one target, murdering all of the top scientists in a given country in their sleep, blowing up pagers of innocent doctors and surgeons in other countries, etc.)
      3. Surrender its current and former leadership to the ICC and allow them to face trial for their war crimes
      • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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        Why would Israel only blame her specifically and not MTG and the others? Even as a charitable take it requires her to be some sort of lone warrior who is a bit unwilling to become a political martyr and yet this couldn’t be further from reality.

        If anything wouldn’t that also be very good for her record e.g “Yes I single handendly voted against the genocide bill(s), yes I’m different, vote against me if you dare.” Isn’t that the whole point? Nah the point here is her complete cowardice to take an independent or even anti-dem stance.

        Also goes without saying she continues to show lack of political instincts, now more than ever in July 2025 if you tell the average American “oh no the Iron Dome was cut off and some setter died” most people are likely to respond with “yeah, good. So anyway about [insert ICE or cost of living here issue here]”

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      She’s openly admitting she supports sending weapons to Israel so Israel can continue to commit genocide. Nothing less.

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    I don’t see a problem here. She’s not gonna say that Israel should be eradicated. There is no mAsK oFf happening here; the position is “end war, everyone stay in their borders”.

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        Congressional bills are never single-item so I dont know what’s in it that benefits AOC’s constituency. The tweet is about an amendment so I have to assume it isnt the Send Weapons To Israel Bill; but I’ll admit that I dont know what the rest of it is about.

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          This isn’t about the whole bill, she voted against a specific amendment to the bill that would remove military aid to Israel.

          • How does that help end the war?

          • Why did those other members of the Squad vote for the amendment?

          • How does that help her constituents who now mostly oppose sending military aid to Israel?

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          Do you seriously think none of the funding sent will be used to continue committing genocide?

          Like the comment RIGHT ABOVE YOURS IS “see, when countries do a genocide, they split all their weapons into two big piles labeled “Genocide” and “Not genocide”. The latter pile is cool and we should still be adding to it but we just got to stop the genocide pile from getting bigger”

          If this is your actual thought process you are the person that is talking about and you should seriously think really fucking hard about that.

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            Just to clarify: I despise all Abrahamic theocracies and firmly believe that Israel and the entire ME should be turned to glass to prove once and for all that their fucking god doesnt exist and that they should either become civilized humans or be slaughtered, Cuisinearted and used as fertilizer…so you’re not gonna browbeat me into submission on this.

            There are multiple possibilities for her motivation but I don’t believe one of them is MASK OFF SURPRISE I AM A ZIONIST!!

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              I despise all Abrahamic theocracies and firmly believe that Israel and the entire ME should be turned to glass to prove once and for all that their fucking god doesnt exist

              I despise you and would like you to be turned into glass and not exist you genocidal Nazi freak.

    • Not only that but it sounds like Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib are both (strategically) agreeing on supporting MTG on the question of Palestinian genocide.

      Strange bedfellows, as they say. I don’t blame them though.

  • EstraDoll [she/her, he/him]@hexbear.net
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    see, when countries do a genocide, they split all their weapons into two big piles labeled “Genocide” and “Not genocide”. The latter pile is cool and we should still be adding to it but we just got to stop the genocide pile from getting bigger