California has been reducing violent encounters between residents and officers since before the racial justice protests sparked by George Floyd’s murder. It’s a trend with little fanfare.
Police not killing people is not necessary a good sign. Sometimes you just can’t stop the criminals by other means. In Europe police has basically no power and the weapon use by the police is heavily restricted and gets the policemen in trouble which makes it easier for criminals to just run away
There is a long history of most police killings being situations where officers could have deescalated but chose to shoot, or being mistaken about the presence of a gun other than their own.
I am not an American but having watched many bodycam videos on YouTube, it seems that in 99,99% of the cases when someone got shot, all they needed to do not to get shot is follow the police officer’s orders. Isn’t that so? In the US if you draw a gun on a police officer you get shot and the deal is done. In Europe, if you draw a gun on a police officer, the police starts running away fearing for their life, and the offender just escapes and stays free
People being threatened while experiencing some sort of mental health crisis don’t do that. Cops need to not just shout orders and threaten people, but actively deescalate to prevent unnecessary shootings.
I’ll be honest with you, I am against obeying orders of any kind. So if I exist in a society where that could get me killed if I happen to have any interaction with the police, that is insane.
Try following these orders.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OflGwyWcft8
Not following orders isn’t an offense punishable by summary execution in the US. Keep your authoritarian bootlicking attitude away from our country, please.
I am aware that abuses do happen, what I am questioning is the scale. The situation from the video you’ve sent is of course absolutely unacceptable and disciplinary actions shall be taken against that officer as it’s a clear abuse of power.
Also, I am not pro “authoritarian bootlicking attitude”, just believe that it’s better if the police has tools to fight the actual criminals while taking responsibility for power abuses. In US it went too far one way, in Europe it went too far the other way.
There is very rarely any punishment for abuse and often the punishment is a suspension or transfer to a different precinct.
Looks like a positive trend resulting from better legislation and accountability. Nothing to throw a block party over, but improvements are worthy of note.
It’s not red vs blue, it’s rich vs poor.
Yea but it’s also blue policy choices that are helping here.
Simple. Truthful. This needs to be repeated everywhere.
California, famously a poor state.
The vast majority of it is indeed poor. Sure there are pockets of billionaires but most people in CA are struggling. Even more so now than ever before. Especially when you factor the cost of truth and other living expenses.
People in general tend to have more personal wealth in blue states due to safety nets and other social programs red states lack.
It’s rich vs poor because it’s red vs blueI heard people complaining about taxes all the time when I lived in us republican states. In US democrat states, only the far right was complaining. Everyone else was enjoying the public services that the taxes paid for, and most of us had been to places that claimed to have lower tax burdens (but did not) and provided far less services. Texas for example.
I think a heat map might disagree with that on a red vs blue state level, but if that map was specifically by income, I agree it would be higher in poor areas.
How to word this… poor people are killed more than rich people, but poor people are killed more often in red states than in blue. Something like that.
