This is more of an anti-natalist position than a pro-choice one. The right to bodily autonomy includes the right to reproduce, even if you think the parents are too poor. The two situations aren’t comparable because one involves a person making a decision about a fetus, and the other involves the life of a full-fledged human being.
People have the right to have children, regardless of if the circumstances they’ll be brought up in are up to your approval. To say they shouldn’t have that right is not pro-choice, it’s anti-natalist.
That’s because it’s unreasonable and made in bad faith.
I don’t support any right as an absolute principle. Rights have to be balanced against each other with consideration of the material effects. What you’re doing is applying a principle designed to cover one type of situation to a situation that is only superficially similar. A reductive tactic to avoid engaging with the complexity of the issue.
Lol and yours isn’t in bad faith. Comparing an informed decision to end their life against someone wanting to inject bleach because they think it will help them when it would kill them. One is misinformed, the other is not.
It’s not a comparison at all. People on here really don’t seem to understand how hypotheticals work.
What I’m doing with that is merely establishing that the right to bodily autonomy is, like all rights, not absolute. There are cases where it has to be balanced against other rights or material considerations. At no point did I claim that it was analogous to assisted suicide. There is nothing remotely bad faith about establishing that point.
If it’s such a simple issue, why couldn’t you answer my question 🤔 could it be that you don’t support bodily autonomy as an absolute principle either 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
This is more of an anti-natalist position than a pro-choice one. The right to bodily autonomy includes the right to reproduce, even if you think the parents are too poor. The two situations aren’t comparable because one involves a person making a decision about a fetus, and the other involves the life of a full-fledged human being.
Nobody is forcing anyone to abort a pregnancy? Those are simply options for parents to take if they want to.
So is this option to die with dignity when life is suffering.
Where is your attorney badge, for you clearly missed your appointment.
People have the right to have children, regardless of if the circumstances they’ll be brought up in are up to your approval. To say they shouldn’t have that right is not pro-choice, it’s anti-natalist.
Yes and who denies them having children?
No one. Irrelevant.
But you were literally pointing that out? Or would you say that your entire point is irrelevant and should be dismissed?
No one is presently stopping people from having kids, but that doesn’t mean that anti-natalism doesn’t exist.
Mhm…
Looks OP antinatalism
Yup I sure do exist. But that doesn’t mean I would enforce others to not have kids.
Well, there you have it. Your position is wrong and awful, and I’m opposed to it and have no problem saying so. That’s that.
It also includes the right to end your own life. Are you against bodily autonomy?
If someone walks into a hospital and says they want to inject bleach into their veins to cure COVID, is that still covered under bodily autonomy?
She didn’t want to cure Covid in a hospital, she wanted to end her suffering by ending her life in a dignified way.
So are you against bodily autonomy?
You didn’t answer the question. Are you against bodily autonomy?
Well you didn’t answer the question first :)
That’s because it’s unreasonable and made in bad faith.
I don’t support any right as an absolute principle. Rights have to be balanced against each other with consideration of the material effects. What you’re doing is applying a principle designed to cover one type of situation to a situation that is only superficially similar. A reductive tactic to avoid engaging with the complexity of the issue.
Lol and yours isn’t in bad faith. Comparing an informed decision to end their life against someone wanting to inject bleach because they think it will help them when it would kill them. One is misinformed, the other is not.
It’s not a comparison at all. People on here really don’t seem to understand how hypotheticals work.
What I’m doing with that is merely establishing that the right to bodily autonomy is, like all rights, not absolute. There are cases where it has to be balanced against other rights or material considerations. At no point did I claim that it was analogous to assisted suicide. There is nothing remotely bad faith about establishing that point.
Lots of words to say “no” lmao
Not beating the bad faith allegations lmao
If it’s such a simple issue, why couldn’t you answer my question 🤔 could it be that you don’t support bodily autonomy as an absolute principle either 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔