We all see and hear what goes on over there. Kim will execute kids if they don’t cheer hard enough at his birthday party or something? He’s always threatening to nuke countries and is probably has the highest domestic kill count out of any world leader today.

So I ask? Why don’t any other countries step in to help those people. I saw a survey asking Americans and Escaped North Koreans would they migrate to North Korea and to the US if given the chance (hypothetical for the refugees). And it was like <0.1% to 95%. Obviously those people live in terror.

Why do we just allow this to happen in modern civilization? Nukes on South Korea? Is just not lucrative to step in? SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME PLEASE!?

  • Krono@lemmy.today
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    16 hours ago

    America already tried to save the North Koreans once. It was called the “Korean War”.

    We bombed them back to the stone age, then permanently isolated them from most of the world. Despite having good reasons for the start of the war, America treated NK like Israel currently treats Gaza.

    Even if North Koreans tried to forget that America bombed every hospital, every water purification plant, all the electricity production, etc; the Kim regime’s propaganda will make sure they never forget.

    If we actually wanted to help those people, the first step would be removal of economic sanctions. There is no clean way to remove dictatorship, but the “Arab Spring” model is much more effective and humane than the “Afghanistan War” model.

    • anachrohack@lemmy.world
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      10 hours ago

      North Korea does not allow its own people to leave. The situation is nothing like Gaza, and to claim otherwise is some dipshit 16 year old tankie nonsense. North Korea is the most oppressive country to have ever existed

      • Dogyote@slrpnk.net
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        10 hours ago

        If you read the previous comment more closely you’ll realize that the commentor wasn’t comparing today’s NK to Gaza, but Korea during the Korean War to Gaza. That is a reasonable comparison, as nearly every standing structure was bombed.

      • Krono@lemmy.today
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        10 hours ago

        You have obviously misunderstood me.

        I was comparing the United States actions in the Korean War(1950s) to Israel’s ongoing genocide in Gaza. The mass civilian bombing campaigns, complete destruction of civilian infrastructure, manmade famine, widespread preventable disease, and imposed economic isolation are very similar between the two cases.

        I am not comparing current-day North Korea to current-day Gaza, and I agree with you that would not be a good analogy.

        • anachrohack@lemmy.world
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          9 hours ago

          North korea had comparable standards of living to south korea until the late 1980s, mid-1990s when they stopped getting bankrolled by the soviet union. Leaning on the war in the 1950s to explain modern NK is factually wrong. The reason North korea is in such a poor state is because

          1. Their country clings on to a pseudo-scientific economic ideology which has destroyed their country

          2. Their monarchist dictatorship is hell bent on an unsustainable nuclear weapons program and regularly threatens to annihilate their neighbors in a blaze of atomic glory. Sanctions against North korea are designed to prevent them from acquiring fissile materials for further development of weapons of mass destruction. Considering the stakes here, hitting them with sanctions is letting them off easy

          If the North Korean government cared about its people (which it doesnt) then they would do 4 things:

          1. End their nuclear ambitions

          2. Implement market reforms to allow the free flow of trade and end centralized planning of their economy

          3. Free all political prisoners and the 3 generations of their family which are considered guilty by association, and end the mass system of concentration camps which they run

          4. The Kim dynasty must step down and allow free and fair elections

          None of these things will happen because North korea exists solely to be the personal theme park/prison state for Kim Jong-Un, who does not care an iota for the wellbeing of the North Korean people

          • Krono@lemmy.today
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            3 hours ago

            So your thesis is that the 1950s war was inconsequential, and then you lay the entire blame on the Kim regime and their policies?

            My dude, how do you think the Kim regime became a dictatorship?

            Before the 1950s war, Kim was a weak puppet leader propped up by the Soviet Union. By the end of the war, the Kim regime had dictatorial power, which persists to this day.