I didn’t make the original statement, which sounds more like hyperbole than specific, legal, actions.
From experience I can tell you that I have personally encountered cyclists disobeying the law and endangering my safety more than any other non-car transport.
See, I was an endurance rider for most of my life. Meaning I spent long hours, 3-4 days a week on trails, on horseback, moving at speed.
On these trails, cyclists are required to stop and move to the side when they hear or see an equestrian.
The number of times they did this, over 20 years as an equestrian? 4.
The number of times they didn’t? Dozens, possibly over a hundred.
The number of times it caused a wreck and people got hurt? 3.
Cyclists whine about horse poop and having to stop, but WE maintained those trails, they did nothing other than whine and cause accidents.
I’m sure there’s some of you that are not complete tools, but there’s a reason you are despised by all other users of trail systems.
I can’t speak for horses. I’ve only once in my life encountered people on horses while on a bike. It’s an exceedingly unusual scenario.
I can tell you that, as a matter of fact (not anecdote), drivers and cyclists break the law at roughly the same rate. But that in crashes between cars and bikes, the car is the responsible party in 80% of cases. And that studies have established that when cyclists break the law, it is overwhelmingly done in the interest of their own safety, while drivers break the law in the interest of perceived convenience.
I only realised after writing the above that that you mentioned “trails”. Sounds like you’re talking about mountain biking. I can’t speak to that, I’m almost exclusively a roadie, using the bike either as a means of transport or for exercise/training on the road. Saying “you” doesn’t really work here. The amount of overlap between mountain bikers and road bikers is surprisingly small.
Found the cyclist.
Would you like to try answering the questions?
I’m still waiting for an answer from @makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml.
I didn’t make the original statement, which sounds more like hyperbole than specific, legal, actions.
From experience I can tell you that I have personally encountered cyclists disobeying the law and endangering my safety more than any other non-car transport.
See, I was an endurance rider for most of my life. Meaning I spent long hours, 3-4 days a week on trails, on horseback, moving at speed.
On these trails, cyclists are required to stop and move to the side when they hear or see an equestrian.
The number of times they did this, over 20 years as an equestrian? 4.
The number of times they didn’t? Dozens, possibly over a hundred.
The number of times it caused a wreck and people got hurt? 3.
Cyclists whine about horse poop and having to stop, but WE maintained those trails, they did nothing other than whine and cause accidents.
I’m sure there’s some of you that are not complete tools, but there’s a reason you are despised by all other users of trail systems.
I can’t speak for horses. I’ve only once in my life encountered people on horses while on a bike. It’s an exceedingly unusual scenario.
I can tell you that, as a matter of fact (not anecdote), drivers and cyclists break the law at roughly the same rate. But that in crashes between cars and bikes, the car is the responsible party in 80% of cases. And that studies have established that when cyclists break the law, it is overwhelmingly done in the interest of their own safety, while drivers break the law in the interest of perceived convenience.
I only realised after writing the above that that you mentioned “trails”. Sounds like you’re talking about mountain biking. I can’t speak to that, I’m almost exclusively a roadie, using the bike either as a means of transport or for exercise/training on the road. Saying “you” doesn’t really work here. The amount of overlap between mountain bikers and road bikers is surprisingly small.