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        if everything is fascism. fascism is meaningless good job with undermining your own Tagline.

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            yes that’s the whole point or you would just life in a dictatorship i know you have no problem with that if its the correct kind of dictatorship even if that comes back to bite you in your ass in the end. but i would like to keep my liberal democracy its just better for everyone even you.

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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              Maybe spend a bit of time educating yourself on how dictatorships actually take power in society. Liberal democracies being dictatorships of capital, quickly pull off their mask in times of crisis. Freedom under liberalism primarily refers to freedom of those who own private property to exploit others for their benefit. The imposition of the capitalist system that is at the root of liberalism is fundamentally based on violence and coercion, forcing individuals to conform to its principles or face dire consequences.

              Liberalism has two distinct aspects: political liberalism, which champions individual freedom and democracy, and economic liberalism, which is synonymous with capitalism. While appearing compatible when fighting against oppressive regimes, the two faces of liberalism clash once power is attained. Political liberties are inevitably sacrificed to protect the economic interests of the ruling class.

              When threatened by populism, liberalism readily abandons its political ideals in favor of preserving the capitalist economic system. It ultimately serves as nothing more than a mask for capitalism, concealing its exploitative nature behind a facade of individual freedom and democracy.

              The concept of property, central to liberalism, is presented as a cornerstone of freedom. However, it ignores the fact that individual property can represent a theft from the community, and its protection justifies state violence. Liberalism’s commitment to freedom of expression is undermined by its legal and constitutional protections of property, which remove the issue of property rights from the realm of political discourse.

              And once the capitalist system falls into a crisis as it is doing now in the US, then liberalism reveals its true face which is fascism.

              https://orgrad.wordpress.com/articles/liberalism-the-two-faced-tyranny-of-wealth/

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                keep that commie shit to yourself its not convincing anybody. talk like fucking normal human being. don’t start a fucking reply with educate yourself because why would you then reply further. this just makes it seem like you really really like to sniff your own farts. you just have list of shit you re-post i find that very funny you are the meme hi fellow communists.

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        6 months ago

        One side is supportive of a genocide. The other has stated clearly that they will not only support that genocide, but try to actively start new genocides.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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          Last I checked, Biden admin continues escalating tensions all over the world. So, pretty sure it’s gonna be more genocide regardless of which flavor of fascism you vote in.

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        You’re sending a lot of mixed messages with this meme. Are you excited to vote for Biden because you think he’s more likely to ramp up the genocide to Moa and Xi Jinping levels? Or are you saying you don’t really care who gets elected president because you think both of them will increase the levels of fascism in the United States so that they’re closer to the levels of fascism we’re currently seeing under CCP rule in China?

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    6 months ago

    Stop this bullshit. There is simply no comparison between the parties at this point.

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    What I love about these posts is that someone inevitably comes in and earnestly explains why one candidate is obviously the better fascist, as if everyone on the platform hasn’t already beat their meat raw arguing their perspective on the matter

    My favorite line is “Biden is far from perfect, but”. Every time I see it I get an involuntary hard-on.

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      i dont see why they feel the need to convince anyone. biden’s such a great candidate, he’s done so much, he’ll win in a landslide on his own merits, surely. why bother with a few internet weirdos?

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    6 months ago

    What’s your favorite color? The choice is yours! Benito Trumpolini or Benito Bidenlini?

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            dude just look at your own post at the top and you call other people commenting vapid.

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                if you don’t understand that that way of thinking will exactly create what you pretend to be against then you are no better then a fascist.

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                  Anybody who’s not an utter ignoramus knows that a right wing movement can be stopped simply by voting. German nazis never won more than 37% of the vote while there were still democratic elections in place. Once these people get in power the mask comes off.

                  First chapter in here discusses the rise of fascists in Italy and nazis in Germany, and the parallels with what’s happening in US are pretty clear:

                  After World War I, Italy had settled into a pattern of parliamen­tary democracy. The low pay scales were improving, and the trains were already running on time. But the capitalist economy was in a postwar recession. Investments stagnated, heavy industry operated far below capacity, and corporate profits and agribusiness exports were declining.

                  To maintain profit levels, the large landowners and industrialists would have to slash wages and raise prices. The state in turn would have to provide them with massive subsidies and tax exemptions. To finance this corporate welfarism, the populace would have to be taxed more heavily, and social services and welfare expenditures would have to be drastically cut - measures that might sound familiar to us today. But the government was not completely free to pursue this course. By 1921 , many Italian workers and peasants were unionized and had their own political organizations. With demonstrations, strikes, boy­cotts, factory takeovers, and the forceable occupation of farmlands, they had won the right to organize, along with concessions in wages and work conditions.

                  To impose a full measure of austerity upon workers and peasants, the ruling economic interests would have to abolish the democratic rights that helped the masses defend their modest living standards. The solution was to smash their unions, political organizations, and civil liberties. Industrialists and big landowners wanted someone at the helm who could break the power of organized workers and farm laborers and impose a stern order on the masses. For this task Benito Mussolini, armed with his gangs of Blackshirts, seemed the likely candidate.

                  In 1922, the Federazione Industriale, composed of the leaders of industry, along with representatives from the banking and agribusi­ness associations, met with Mussolini to plan the “March on Rome,” contributing 20 million lire to the undertaking. With the additional backing of Italy’s top military officers and police chiefs, the fascist “revolution”- really a coup d’etat - took place.

                  In Germany, a similar pattern of complicity between fascists and capitalists emerged. German workers and farm laborers had won the right to unionize, the eight-hour day, and unemployment insurance. But to revive profit levels, heavy industry and big finance wanted wage cuts for their workers and massive state subsidies and tax cuts for themselves.

                  During the 1920s, the Nazi Sturmabteilung or SA, the brown­ shirted storm troopers, subsidized by business, were used mostly as an antilabor paramilitary force whose function was to terrorize workers and farm laborers. By 1930, most of the tycoons had con­cluded that the Weimar Republic no longer served their needs and was too accommodating to the working class. They greatly increased their subsidies to Hitler, propelling the Nazi party onto the national stage. Business tycoons supplied the Nazis with gener­ous funds for fleets of motor cars and loudspeakers to saturate the cities and villages of Germany, along with funds for Nazi party organizations, youth groups, and paramilitary forces. In the July 1932 campaign, Hitler had sufficient funds to fly to fifty cities in the last two weeks alone.

                  In that same campaign the Nazis received 37.3 percent of the vote, the highest they ever won in a democratic national election. They never had a majority of the people on their side. To the extent that they had any kind of reliable base, it generally was among the more affluent members of society. In addition, elements of the petty bour­geoisie and many lumpenproletariats served as strong-arm party thugs, organized into the SA storm troopers. But the great majority of the organized working class supported the Communists or Social Democrats to the very end.

                  Clowns like you are precisely the people who end up midwifing fascism.

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    3 months ago

    This sort of attempts at voter disenfranchisement always assists the conservative candidate. This is a Trump campaign ad.

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        Let’s accept for the sake of this discussion that I am a blue fascist. How does that relate to the truth of what I said? That’s right; it doesn’t. Misdirection might win internet arguments but it doesn’t accomplish anything.

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          The truth is that if dems want people to vote for them then maybe they can start actually doing things people want. Screeching that a different type of fascist will be in office isn’t impressing anybody. The party you’re supporting is conducting a literal genocide as we speak, if that’s your idea of a lesser evil you’re a morally bankrupt person.