They could host themselves in a different place with better privacy laws. I’ve always wondered why, for example, don’t privacy services establish themselves in international waters or in micronations such as Sealand.
Because Proton is part of CERN and the privacy laws in Switzerland are very strict. They just have to hand over stuff for very certain cases, terrorism and treason being such cases.
but “muh terrorism” is such a wildcard that it can be (and is) used to excuse anything, so that’s pretty much the same as saying that Proton does not offer any guarantee at all.
They could avoid storing the recovery email in plaintext. A hash would be sufficient if they require the user to enter their recovery email for confirmation when they really need to recover the account.
For an ostensibly privacy-oriented service, Proton makes some weird architectural choices.
The person is a terrorist by definition and Proton does allow temp addresses simply because they cant enforce that you don’t just set up a SMTP server on your pc and get a temporary mail from that…
They are privacy focused but you don’t have to use their services for committing treason and plan terrorist actions/actions against a state when you are to dumb to not use your go to email as recovery.
Nothing they can do about that.
They could host themselves in a different place with better privacy laws. I’ve always wondered why, for example, don’t privacy services establish themselves in international waters or in micronations such as Sealand.
Because Proton is part of CERN and the privacy laws in Switzerland are very strict. They just have to hand over stuff for very certain cases, terrorism and treason being such cases.
but “muh terrorism” is such a wildcard that it can be (and is) used to excuse anything, so that’s pretty much the same as saying that Proton does not offer any guarantee at all.
They could avoid storing the recovery email in plaintext. A hash would be sufficient if they require the user to enter their recovery email for confirmation when they really need to recover the account.
For an ostensibly privacy-oriented service, Proton makes some weird architectural choices.
I’ve had to use the recovery, they need plaintext because they send you a recovery code or a support ticket (depends) nobody knows all their emails.
Sure, but we’re talking about architectural choices. It is Proton’s choice to use that system; it is not required for the goal of account recovery.
Well yes but you could just set another Proton account as recovery and not your email which you used to sign up to everything…
Can you? Didn’t someone else mention that Proton don’t allow another Proton account?
Well… I did… Idk
Well on the other hand you can just not be a terrorist (for that case)
You can also set a temporary mail if another Proton isn’t working. There are enough ways around such restrictions.
This person isn’t a terrorist.
Proton also don’t allow temp addresses.
The person is a terrorist by definition and Proton does allow temp addresses simply because they cant enforce that you don’t just set up a SMTP server on your pc and get a temporary mail from that…
They are privacy focused but you don’t have to use their services for committing treason and plan terrorist actions/actions against a state when you are to dumb to not use your go to email as recovery.