You know what’s also racist? China genociding Uyghurs. Quit pretending that the fact that the US is an imperialist piece of shit means that China is good.
and so is chinese and Russian media. go ahead make sure the news source is centrist, and not get into political fights. also do you notice that communist symbols are banned in former communist nations.
You people go around calling others NSA, CIA and what not. But from my perspective, all your counter arguments are similar, consistent and repetitive. I have seen the same in other communities as well. At this point, you might as well concede that you’re running a CCP propaganda campaign on the lemmyverse, instead of trying to discredit others.
red scare bullshit. western media is writing this in order to deflect from the real spying done by the united states. even if the lies told by western propaganda would have anything to do in reality, why would you care about a far away government collecting intelligence about you over the one that can (and will) actually hurt you?
i use foss because i like the idea of it (its basically cyber leftism), as well as to hide from western intelligence, since i have the misfortune of living in there. why are YOU using it?
unlike western nations, china is a a dictatorship of the proletariat, aka a peoples state. you will only be targered, if you are some kind of rightist. i happen to support the targeting of such people, to the point that i believe the prc isnt doing nearly enough in this regard, allowing elements like deng xiaoping to rise through the ranks. cuba and korea are much more consequent in this regard.
there aint no genocide perpetrated by the prc. even IF all the fake evidence provided by the west were real (it isnt) it would still look absolutely ridiculous in comparison to real genocides like the one in gaza and all the other places brutalized by the us and their puppets.
Not so fast. While it is certainly questionable what they are doing and I personally don’t like China either, the Uhyghur situation is complicated and Bad Empanada made a detailed analysis of the situation while trying to be unbiased. Most of what we see (or rather saw since the trend kind of died) in western media is very exxagerated and there were reasons that had little to do with ethnicity.
The US tried to foment division in China by funding and organizing terrorist cells in Xinjiang, and when those efforts failed it concocted and promoted a genocide narrative. Antony Blinken is still pushing this slop, just two weeks ago.
We see here for example the evolution of public opinion in regards to China. In 2019, the ‘Uyghur genocide’ was broken by the media (Buzzfeed, of all outlets). In this story, we saw the machine I described up until now move in real time. Suddenly, newspapers, TV, websites were all flooded with stories about the ‘genocide’, all day, every day. People whom we’d never heard of before were brought in as experts — Adrian Zenz, to name just one; a man who does not even speak a word of Chinese.
Organizations were suddenly becoming very active and important. The World Uyghur Congress, a very serious-sounding NGO, is actually an NED Front operating out of Germany […]. From their official website, they declare themselves to be the sole legitimate representative of all Uyghurs — presumably not having asked Uyghurs in Xinjiang what they thought about that.
The WUC also has ties to the Grey Wolves, a fascist paramilitary group in Turkey, through the father of their founder, Isa Yusuf Alptekin.
Documents came out from NGOs to further legitimize the media reporting. This is how a report from the very professional-sounding China Human Rights Defenders (CHRD) came to exist. They claimed ‘up to 1.3 million’ Uyghurs were imprisoned in camps. What they didn’t say was how they got this number: they interviewed a total of 10 people from rural Xinjiang and asked them to estimate how many people might have been taken away. They then extrapolated the guesstimates they got and arrived at the 1.3 million figure.
Sanctions were enacted against China — Xinjiang cotton for example had trouble finding buyers after Western companies were pressured into boycotting it. Instead of helping fight against the purported genocide, this act actually made life more difficult for the people of Xinjiang who depend on this trade for their livelihood (as we all do depend on our skills to make a livelihood).
Any attempt China made to defend itself was met with more suspicion. They invited a UN delegation which was blocked by the US. The delegation eventually made it there, but three years later. The Arab League also visited Xinjiang and actually commended China on their policies — aimed at reducing terrorism through education and social integration, not through bombing like we tend to do in the West.
You know what’s also racist? China genociding Uyghurs. Quit pretending that the fact that the US is an imperialist piece of shit means that China is good.
Source: Western Media
Which lie 105% of the time. The extra 5% is when they make random shit up and lie more to justify the random shit they made up.
There is no Uygur genocide. Nice try C.I.A.
and so is chinese and Russian media. go ahead make sure the news source is centrist, and not get into political fights. also do you notice that communist symbols are banned in former communist nations.
You people go around calling others NSA, CIA and what not. But from my perspective, all your counter arguments are similar, consistent and repetitive. I have seen the same in other communities as well. At this point, you might as well concede that you’re running a CCP propaganda campaign on the lemmyverse, instead of trying to discredit others.
Compared to what? The obscure, unsubstantiated, suspicious and clearly pro-Chinese news sources referenced here by you and your buddies?
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red scare bullshit. western media is writing this in order to deflect from the real spying done by the united states. even if the lies told by western propaganda would have anything to do in reality, why would you care about a far away government collecting intelligence about you over the one that can (and will) actually hurt you?
Both of you are dangerous in truth. We don’t trust anyone. (ಠ_ಠ)>⌐■-■ Why do you think we use FOSS?
i use foss because i like the idea of it (its basically cyber leftism), as well as to hide from western intelligence, since i have the misfortune of living in there. why are YOU using it?
unlike western nations, china is a a dictatorship of the proletariat, aka a peoples state. you will only be targered, if you are some kind of rightist. i happen to support the targeting of such people, to the point that i believe the prc isnt doing nearly enough in this regard, allowing elements like deng xiaoping to rise through the ranks. cuba and korea are much more consequent in this regard.
there aint no genocide perpetrated by the prc. even IF all the fake evidence provided by the west were real (it isnt) it would still look absolutely ridiculous in comparison to real genocides like the one in gaza and all the other places brutalized by the us and their puppets.
then you must believe satellites aren’t real.
us communists literally invented them, shitlib. is the american education system so terrible that you dont even know things as basic as that?
Not so fast. While it is certainly questionable what they are doing and I personally don’t like China either, the Uhyghur situation is complicated and Bad Empanada made a detailed analysis of the situation while trying to be unbiased. Most of what we see (or rather saw since the trend kind of died) in western media is very exxagerated and there were reasons that had little to do with ethnicity.
You can watch it here, it’s very long but worth it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz9ICFDk8Js
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The US tried to foment division in China by funding and organizing terrorist cells in Xinjiang, and when those efforts failed it concocted and promoted a genocide narrative. Antony Blinken is still pushing this slop, just two weeks ago.