• Ileftreddit@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    Newsom will be the corpo dem the DNC forces down our throats to hamstring AOC, just like Hillary in 2016- mark my words. Only an actual popular uprising will stop it

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    23 hours ago

    Gavin can go fuck himself and if the Democrats think this is going to win then anything, well fuck then too with their bullshit about blue no matter who.

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      9 hours ago

      Agreed & my problem with “least bad candidate” or “blue no matter who” is that someone like Trump is the inevitable outcome when that’s the only thing they’re running on. Many of us have been voting “the lessor of two evils” for our entire adult lives and all its done is continue allow the right to get even more batshit insane and then the Dems follow right behind, just being less crazy and happily taking advantage of minorities for votes (but, look at how they actually treat Trans people when it matters, all of a sudden it “doesn’t poll well” to continue treating them as people).

      They just expect to get votes because “we’re less shitty than the other candidate!” as if that’s the only thing that matters as they continue to give in to Republican whims at the slightest sign that actual work will need to be done to oppose them (can’t be too obstinate, ya know, you might offend the fascist voters you’re trying to court!)

      They had weeks of forewarning for Rowe vs Wade being overturned due to the leak and had NO PLAN at all to oppose them when the news dropped other than “give us some money so we can continue to do absolutely fucking nothing to fix this”, no unified message, nothing’. Say what you will about Republicans, but the second women and black people started being treated like people under the law, they started thinking to the future and were determined to make sure they could roll that back no matter how long it took.

      ETA: I’m not saying don’t vote or both sides are exactly the same. They’re not at all the same. One is clearly better than the other, but the one that’s ‘better’ won’t actually fight to keep you having rights and will only fight back just the minimum amount to keep donations rolling in from individuals while actively trying to court the rich and corporations for their donations instead and I really hate the lack of good options we have.

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        8 hours ago

        We have to stop rewarding the neo liberal and "moderate"parts of the Democrats. We also can’t keep letting the fascists rewrite the rules on the fly. Newsom is another clay neo-liberal trying to contort and reshape himself into something just fascist enough and just moderate enough to be acceptable to the plutocrats.

        Mamdani proves that there are eager and active liberal Democrats and they are on the sidelines while “main stream” candidates are rolled out time and again as the best option…

    • ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      10 hours ago

      This. I was a proponent of that shit for decades, and all it’s done is reinforce the Dems’ tendency to take their core constituencies for granted and lurch further to the right.

      I will not, under any circumstances, vote for Newsom’s Nazi-platforming ass. Pick someone else.

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      21 hours ago

      Your other choices are to vote for the fascist, or vote for a third party who has even less chance of winning than the less bad choice you’re so smug about, or just not voting which again helps the fascist.

    • Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      1 day ago

      Yeah fuck this guy trying to make inroads with the likes of Steve Bannon.

      To quote They Might Be Giants classic song “Your Racist Friend”

      Can’t shake the Devil’s hand and say you’re only kidding

    • TheFogan@programming.dev
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      1 day ago

      Ah yes, my state, the one that turned the primaries to hell to Bernie… one that’s largely hailed as some reason an important state in the democratic primary, in spite of the fact that we all know there’s a zero percent chance anyone who puts a D next to their name is going to win it in the general. Guess it’s sort of the practice for democrats general strategy… (butcher the hell out of everything you stand for to try to win over the right… get zero votes from far right anyway).