And from the glowing reviews it’s clear that
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W11 doesn’t actually need a new PC to run and the limitations are completely artificial
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For many people, a ten years old PC is fast enough (or even faster than a brand new Intel N100 PC that is officially W11 compatible). They won’t even notice that’s something from 2015, as long it has a shiny new case, enough RAM and SSD
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Amazon doesn’t care that the PC comes with pirated software, or that someone is scamming their customers, as long they get their 15% cut from marketplace sales (the cost of a genuine license of W11 pro and office exceeds the price of those ewaste specials)
Yeah no, calling cap OK that.
It’ll run most indies and triple A game from 6-7y ago.
It’ll be a real bottle neck for recent games. And especially for the only game that truly matters, rimworld.
I am running an n150 on a secondary mini pc. On paper it’s twice as fast as your cpu. It drives me crazy how slow it can be at times when running multiple tabs or apps at the same time. You’re delusional if you think your cpu is still up to snuff in 2025
if it’s anything like the Pentium g4560 it can absolutely play games, just not necessarily at good framerates nor AVX so star citizen is completely unrunnable. also Linux compile times suck
It should be able to run a pretty good sized factory in Factorio. Easily fast enough to compile CDDA.
Oh no, can’t play what ever some AAA studio shat out last week, how ever will I cope…
I think people tend to forget that the vast majority of people don’t even play games on their computer. Like when I mention this computer, I always get “Nah, this wont play Elden Ring at 4k 120 fps, just throw it to the garbage”. But my parents, sisters, most of my friends dont give a damn about gaming. And this computer is definitely fast enough for all my personal gaming needs.
Another thing, is that gaming streaming services are now super efficient. I could literally play Doom the Dark Age at 1080p on Xbox Game pass with this PC, and I sometimes subscribe to PS+ to play Playstation exclusives.
I still doubt it would be a pleasant experience. I only do office type work on the n150 device. It’s still laggy AF compared to any modern mid-range cpu. (eg my i5 (?) 8600 at home, which is also already of respectable age, is a lot smoother for non-gaming use.)
But I guess your point (partially) stands, Johnny granddad won’t notice when he checks the news and weather in the morning.
I suspect it’s all the OS bullshit that makes you experience laggy. Obviously having an SSD and 8gb ram is essential. I made a super light install of Win 10 on my i5 750, years ago, and any office works is still 100% smooth on it. Even editing and mixing audio is not much different than on my M1 Max, I still open some old projects from time to time. I teach computer science in an audio engineering program, and I’m convinced that in the field of audio, we won the battle of computing power a very long time ago. On the other hand, for video processing, game engines, etc. it’s another story. But in the field of sound, power gains are marginal these days.
I ran Ubuntu and arch on it. The lag is noticeable even in Firefox with just 5-6 tabs open. 8GB ram and an ssd. Open multiple apps and it becomes very very noticeable.
Audio, sure, I have no experience with that, no argument from me there.
But you claimed your vintage cpu is enough for most people. Most people ain’t audio engineers. Most people would immediately notice a smoothness difference between an m1 max and your vintage cpu. There is no way you don’t notice a difference in (non audio maybe) regular browsing (not just one tab, but many) and multitasking, stop lying to win a useless internet argument.
Yeah, same. That was my first major PC build and it hit its threshold. I used the hell out of it for nearly 6 years, but no way it’s playing new games with a 1060.
Fr. I have an OCd 2500k and it was a bottleneck many years ago. Pre Sandy CPUs… Not a chance it’s not a bottleneck.