Yo linux team, i would love some advice.

I’m pretty mad at windows, 11 keeps getting worse and worse and I pretty done with Bill’s fetishes about bing and ai. Who knows where’s cortana right now…

Anyway, I heard about this new company called Linux and I’m open to try new stuff. I’m a simple guy and just need some basic stuff:

  • graphic stuff: affinity, canva, corel, gimp etc… (no adobe anymore, please don’t ask.)
  • 3d modelling and render: blender, rhino, cinema, keyshot
  • video editing: davinci
  • some little coding in Dart/flutter (i use VS, I don’t know if this is good or bad)
  • a working file explorer (can’t believe i have to say this)
  • NO FUCKIN ADS
  • NO MF STUPID ASS DISGUSTING ADVERTISING

The tricky part is the laptop, a zenbook duo pro (i9-10/rtx2060), with double touch screens.

I tried ubuntu several years ago but since it wasn’t ready for my use i never went into different distros and their differences. Now unfortunately, ready or not, I need to switch.

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    I’m not a graphics designer and idk any of the graphics related apps you listed except gimp but everything should work fine as long as it have a native Linux version. You may need to replace Davinci with something else though because it can be a pain to get working on Linux.

    For distros, I’d recommend Mint because it’s just pretty much the most beginner-friendly one you can get and it’s quite conservative but it has very old drivers so performance may not be the best, EndeavourOS (based on Arch btw but quite stable) if you have very very recent hardware or if you want newest performance optimizations (driver versions) and Pop!_OS if you have an NVidia GPU. I wouldn’t recommend Fedora or Ubuntu because the first one rushes major bleeding edge changes (including AI) and the second one is known for some questionable choices (including ads and pushing proprietary app stores with poor moderation).

    P. S. We do not like clickbait or any other kinds of bait here. Please follow the rules of ethical posting

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      Thanks, I’m slowing distancing myself from software that are not supported in linux or treat customers as milking cows for ai. At least in graphic design space, I feel I’m getting cornered more and more from people like adobe, microsoft or apple. I’ll check endeavourOs and def Mint!

      Sorry for the bait, I thought it was more obvious

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        You can try the GIMP beta Flatpak.

        See instructions how to do this in my repo

        After adding the repo, do flatpak install --user gimp and use the gimp-beta version.

        They add tons of stuff to it like color profiles and nondestructive filters.

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      “We do not like clickbait”

      Who gave you the authority to speak in the name of the community exactly?

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    I would say to just try it out and see how it is! The live USB works nicely and you can decide you don’t like a distro and move on rapidly. There are also tools out there that let you load up multiple distros on the USB at once, and then pick which one to use when you boot up.

    I went through my own struggles with dual booting Linux some time ago. If you search on Lemmy, you can find those embarrassing posts. It was my fault, I got confident and messed with ‘grub’ in all the wrong ways, before cutting my losses early and reverting everything because I had other commitments to deal with.

    The good thing though is that it’s totally possible to put Windows back 100% the way it was before, even after messing up as badly as I did (I couldn’t boot into either operating system because the machine couldn’t find the boot entry). Once you’re ready to replace windows with Linux (or dual boot etc.), make a good backup with something like Macrium Reflect and you should be safe to go for it. I highly doubt you’ll make the mistakes I did, the story is to say that you can mess up and be just fine!

    As for your use case:

    • affinity programs aren’t on Linux from what I remember, you might want to experiment and see if you can run it with Wine or if you have an alternative (ex. Dual boot, different programs)
    • Not sure about Davinci, comments suggest that it runs ok on Linux. I like KdenLive

    As for what people recommended, and what I’m planning to try soon

    • Kubuntu (if you want Ubuntu that looks similar to windows)
    • Fedora (what I tried last time)
    • Linux Mint
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    I ran Linux on a Zenbook Pro Duo. Fedora’s KDE distribution was the only release I ever found that worked out of the box with both touchscreens as I’d expect. You’d think a big release like Ubuntu would work, but whatever they have set up for touchscreens is slightly out of whack. For example, touch and drag would select text instead of scrolling the page.

    By default, your laptop might try to stay awake all the time. The second screen is treated as an external monitor, and there’s a setting you can find in the configuration menu that forces the laptop to stay awake when an external device is connected.

    Some other things to note. If you’ve got an older model, you might be able to find a third-party software suite such as this one that will allow you to use your laptop almost normally.

    However, if your laptop is new enough, you might be unable to find any software (third party or otherwise) that supports the built-in features such as quick screen swapping, numpad, or turning off the lower screen. The lower screen is LCD anyways, so you won’t get burn in. If you’re worried about power, I’ve found that despite the lower screen being on full-time, Linux still doubled or tripled my battery life compared to when I ran Windows. I think the biggest immediate drawback is that you may not have any on-board audio due to a lack of drivers, though that might have been fixed in Fedora 40. I know they were working on that in the newer version of upstream Linux (which may not have arrived yet), but I haven’t been following it. And finally, you won’t be able to adjust the brightness of the lower screen without some configuration. Again, some of that might be mitigated if you can find some compatible and reliable 3rd-party software for your laptop.

    I will say that despite all the limitations mentioned above, I still vastly preferred Linux to Windows. The battery life alone was enough to warrant the switch.

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      Thanks, I was hoping to find someone who did this before. And apparently not the first time I read that fedora is my best/only option for the type of laptop. Great tips!

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        Hey OP, I just installed Fedora KDE as dual boot on my desktop (slowly transitioning from Windows) and I can vouch for what the person above you is saying. Good luck, and feel free to ask anything. I’m no expert, but I can at least listen.

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    For graphics stuff you will be using Gimp, Inkscape, and Krita. No adjustment layers, or cmyk, sorry. If that is enough for you, good, if not, you’re out of luck.

    For 3D modelling, only Blender.

    For video, DaVinci only works sometimes, depending on distro, version of the app, drivers installed etc. It’s a bit of a crapshoot. A good alternative is kdenlive if you don’t need hardware acceleration, proper color grading and film emulation, or compositing.

    Google laid off most Dart/Flutter developers just a week ago or so.

    Thunar for file manager, not Nautilus. Nautilus crashes in folders that has hundreds of svg files in it (e.g. a theme folder), or when you’re trying to copy a 30 gb folder to a new folder on the same secondary drive (it only copied 9 GB out of the 30, all files were owned by me). Both bugs bit me just the other day.

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    pretty done with Bill’s fetishes about bing and ai.

    I agree with all your points, but Bill Gates has no agency on the company’s decisions these days. Blame Satya.

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    Gimp and Blender are both available on Linux. VS Code is on Linux (most coding stuff is on Linux). Linux file explorers work pretty well (Dolphin, for example). I’d recommend Kubuntu, KDE neon or Linux Mint for the distro, all are pretty similar in appearance to Windows. It won’t take much learning with them.

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    I’d recommend installing kde neon. KDE is a user interface that looks a bit more like windows, it should be an easy transition. KDE Neon runs most of the latest versions, should have the best support whilst being easy to install.

    Most of the software you manage should work, for those that might be problematic, you might be able to find alternatives, see alternativeto.net

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    as for video editing, i’ve been using flowblade recently, it’s been pretty good for putting together more basic edits.

    You should install it using flatpak and only update when you have no more active projects (for the moment it seems updates partially break older saves)

    pcmanfm has been pretty solid, i really recommend learning CLI file management though, it’s universal and super convenient for the basic things.

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      I don’t think Olive is a good alternative to davinci resolve. First, nothing is good if it crashes a lot. Second, Davinci Resolve is feature rich and super powerful, while Olive is not. The closest FOSS alternative is Kdenlive, but I’d recommend finding a distro that can run Davinci itself, as Davinci does have a native Linux client for some distros.

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    Linux Mint if you’re unsure

    Fedora if you’re brave and want the full Toolbox

    Please not Ubuntu. It has enough of its own issues that it originally turned me away from Linux.

    Oh and KDE for the desktop environment if you want great out of box windows like UI if you go with Fedora. Mint comes with cinnamon which is also pretty good. xfce if you want to run linux on a potato.

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    OK, let me fill you with my experience. Now I am on Desktop Linux, and I can’t say how your Double Touch screens will work. But I can tell you about some of your points.

    Affinity, canva, corel, and cinema4d are not Linux compatible and you’ll need to run them in Wine/Wine GE via software like Bottles or Lutris. Most will not work, while others like affinity might work, but requires a lot of working around. If these software’s are required, you may want to look at a Mac.

    keyshot, gimp, vscode(ium) are all native and have either scripts or can be installed via Flatpak or from the distros app repos.

    Davinci Resolve is interesting, You’ve lucked out since you have an rtx2060, but Resolve is quite finicky to get working Linux. You’ll need nvidia drivers and the open source free drivers will not work. All good Linux distros should have easy access, but I found Fedora to be trickier to install. Once you can get Resolve working, you’ll either need to buy Studio if you want H.264 support, and if your videos aren’t using PCM audio then you’ll need to convert it using FFMPEG. I have a script which I use at the end of my injest. Afterwords, it runs and works fine, with no issues (assuming you have the RAM to run it 32GB recommended). If you don’t want to deal with any of this (understandable) Mac OS has no issues out of the box.

    Working file explorer: up to taste, and personal preference. Every distro will have one and it’ll be good enough, but some distros tailor theirs to their OS’s tastes. If you are running with a popular Desktop Environment, i.e. KDE Plasma, Gnome, Cinnamon, then it’ll work.

    Now if you want my two cents on all of this. First you should aim for a Ubuntu based distro. While Ubuntu itself isn’t bad, I personally prefer a different Desktop Environment as Gnome is too different for me from what Windows offers. Linux Mint with Cinnamon and POP_OS are good alternative with a more Windows/Mac flavoring, and since they are running Gnome underneath it’ll have the same compatibility as Ubuntu proper with hardware.

    Another option is Kubuntu which used KDE’s Plasma. Plasma is OK, but I find it to be a little less refined than it’s appearance lead me to believe.

    Now for testing, I’d advise you to get a second SSD and an enclosure and plug it into a USB-C port. It’ll do wonders to quickly go an run everything, without sacrificing you existing install of Winblows. Linux is so efficent I ran my main PC for a week off of it, and only noticed while running games.

    Finally, depending on how often you are using your Windows only software. You might get away with running them in a Windows 10 VM, and using a shared folder to the Host machine to move files back and forth.

    This is definatly a project you should look into, but I feel you should probably look at more cross platform alternatives to your software first. Since another alternative, if you aren’t playing games, is a Mac.

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      Thank you! DaVinci feels like the bigger problem, but between changing os or changing application, i will change davinci in a second. No more compromises for me, enough.

      If i ever buy apple again i hope someone will find me and beat me up until I’m unconscious.

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    Try Kubuntu as a Distro. Any KDE Plasma Distro would be good as well. -Sincerely The Linux Company

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    Gimp and Blender are Linux software

    DaVinci Resolve has a Linux version

    Code OSS (or VSCode is you want Windows telemetry included) works

    a working file explorer

    Not an issue, you can use Dolphin on Windows if you wanted

    NO FUCKIN ADS

    That’s easy

    Now unfortunately, ready or not, I need to switch.

    Try Mint

    The things I missed are ones I know nothing about