GrapheneOS gets rid of all the Google crap, it’s a much lighter and more minimal experience, I really like it. It also has some significant privacy and security improvements, it’s pretty neat.
I was thinking about it ever since Louis Rossmann showcased it. But as he had problems using his banking app and some other stuff, I decided it wouldn’t be worth the hassel. Also, many people wrote that with Graphene you lose a lot of the fancy camera shenanigans that Google made. And the camera was one of the more important points in getting this phone.
Regarding the camera: Yes, you lost some quality with the default GrapheneOS camera app. But you can easily install the official Google camera app from the Play store (or anonymously through Aurora) to get full quality. You don’t even need Google play services installed for that to work, and you can revoke it’s network access, so it’s completely offline and private. I use the Google camera app all the time, it works flawlessly.
Say whaaaat. That’s an interesting and brave take.
How’s the pixel experience worse than Samsung? That’s the reason I stopped buying Samsungs way back. All the malware PUPs Samsung loads on being my main sticking point.
The most annoying thing is that major android updates are mandatory. I could not choose NOT to update. Notifications are bugged as hell for ages. Some just disappear, some don’t even ring/light up. Samsung had some apps that had more features compared to the Google alternatives. The only annoying this were all teh MS apps that I couldn’t deinstall.
Strange. I’ve never updated my Pixel and it doesn’t bother me about it, and you can always also roll back after an update also since there are no e-fuses or measures of that type, in fact there is even an official tool for this that runs in the chrome browser of all things. I’ve been meaning to go back to Android 10 from 13, ‘Material You’ is just an eyesore.
I’ve not had issues with notifications either, perhaps it’s worth it to check your settings?
If there are specific Samsung apps you miss, why not download them from Google Play if available or Apkmirror, or look for FOSS alternatives on F-Droid?
The phone kept nagging me to update to 12 and later to 13 all the time. I didn’t manage to find a way to make the notification go away… Maybe it’s just me being a doofus.
As for the notifications thing, I literally tried everything except factory resetting my phone. Guess I am just unlucky.
I wanted to get some of the Samsung apps back, but most weren’t updated to work on 12 at that time and later I just forgot and gave in. I’ve never used F-Droid before but it looks like a good time to start now. Tnx for reminding me about it.
I have a 4a 5G variant and I can’t stand how the “stock” experience manages to be worse than on my old Samsung :-/ The pics are great tho
GrapheneOS gets rid of all the Google crap, it’s a much lighter and more minimal experience, I really like it. It also has some significant privacy and security improvements, it’s pretty neat.
I was thinking about it ever since Louis Rossmann showcased it. But as he had problems using his banking app and some other stuff, I decided it wouldn’t be worth the hassel. Also, many people wrote that with Graphene you lose a lot of the fancy camera shenanigans that Google made. And the camera was one of the more important points in getting this phone.
There’s a very detailed article about GrapheneOS banking app compatibility where you can check if your bank’s app works on Graphene: https://github.com/PrivSec-dev/banking-apps-compat-report/
Regarding the camera: Yes, you lost some quality with the default GrapheneOS camera app. But you can easily install the official Google camera app from the Play store (or anonymously through Aurora) to get full quality. You don’t even need Google play services installed for that to work, and you can revoke it’s network access, so it’s completely offline and private. I use the Google camera app all the time, it works flawlessly.
Say whaaaat. That’s an interesting and brave take.
How’s the pixel experience worse than Samsung? That’s the reason I stopped buying Samsungs way back. All the malware PUPs Samsung loads on being my main sticking point.
Well it’s less features for less bloat.
From there it depends how much of those extra features are useful / how much you miss in stock android.
What features? Most of the bloat is just duplicate applications like “Google photos” and “Samsung photos”
The most annoying thing is that major android updates are mandatory. I could not choose NOT to update. Notifications are bugged as hell for ages. Some just disappear, some don’t even ring/light up. Samsung had some apps that had more features compared to the Google alternatives. The only annoying this were all teh MS apps that I couldn’t deinstall.
Strange. I’ve never updated my Pixel and it doesn’t bother me about it, and you can always also roll back after an update also since there are no e-fuses or measures of that type, in fact there is even an official tool for this that runs in the chrome browser of all things. I’ve been meaning to go back to Android 10 from 13, ‘Material You’ is just an eyesore.
I’ve not had issues with notifications either, perhaps it’s worth it to check your settings?
If there are specific Samsung apps you miss, why not download them from Google Play if available or Apkmirror, or look for FOSS alternatives on F-Droid?
The phone kept nagging me to update to 12 and later to 13 all the time. I didn’t manage to find a way to make the notification go away… Maybe it’s just me being a doofus. As for the notifications thing, I literally tried everything except factory resetting my phone. Guess I am just unlucky.
I wanted to get some of the Samsung apps back, but most weren’t updated to work on 12 at that time and later I just forgot and gave in. I’ve never used F-Droid before but it looks like a good time to start now. Tnx for reminding me about it.
I 100% agree. Stock android experience is garbage even compared miui.