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    China bad. US bad. Russia bad.

    All three can be true at the same time. (And they are)

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      “The US is bad, but I believe everything it says about its enemies without question”

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    It is nice to see the western propaganda machine start to fail. I never thought I’d see the general public recognize Israel is a genocidal settler apartheid state until the last couple years, even though the propaganda machine has been working overtime for it. Hopefully other areas in propaganda start to crumble as well.

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      13 hours ago

      Born to early to explore the cosmos, too late to explore the world, but just in time to see the fall of the US empire propaganda machine 😁

  • veganbtw@lemmy.ml
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    Noooo my heckin wholesome Lemmy propaganda don’t you dare have any other opinion than USA#1 here or else me and my liberal friends will call your love of gross, dirty and smelly foreigners and make homophobic jokes about you having sex with Putin

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    Literally everything OP posts is from RT or a similar Russian mouthpeice. I am - and I’m being serious here - stunned by the level of doublethink on display. I would say they’re a bot, but I think even a bot would be like, “nah, this is too much - no-one is this much of a cretin”.

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      OP is so anti-anything that is said in Western media that they genuinely believe Putin, Xi and Kim are the perfect humans and there’s nothing wrong in any of their countries and they’re perfect utopias.

      They’re either a moron, brainwashed or a paid actor. I can’t decide which.

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        Politics must be so easy when you just lazily strawman everyone who disagrees with you, before writing them off with an equally lazy adhominem.

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          I haven’t strawman’d them, they literally say China, Russia, Iran and DPRK are great and the West is bad continually. There’s no nuance to their position. At no point have I seen any post or comment from the OP that says “you know what, there’s some good and bad on both sides and maybe we should strive to find the balance in our perspectives” (though I will admit, I haven’t specifically gone through their post and comment history to seek it out).

          It’s also not an ad hominem if I believe the person either doesn’t understand what they’re saying/doing or they’re intentionally saying/doing things because they’re themselves propagandised or being paid to say/do it.

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            I haven’t strawman’d them

            Oh? Please point to where they said “Putin, Xi and Kim are the perfect humans and there’s nothing wrong in any of their countries and they’re perfect utopias.” Because that sounds like a huge fucking strawman.

            It’s also not an ad hominem

            Refusing to engage with the substance of their point and dismissing them as “either a moron, brainwashed or a paid actor.” is basically the definition of an adhominem.

    • jackeroni@lemmy.mlOP
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      Of course, someone has to post against the dominance that is western propaganda “media”

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        The solution to that isn’t to post even more blatantly state controlled media just with a different flavor of boot sole.

        Come on now.

        • ComradeSharkfucker@lemmy.ml
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          Nearly all media is state controlled. Even privately owned media companies because both the media and the state are just tools the owning class uses to maintain power. They share the same interests. There are some coalitions of reporters and journalists that have relative independence but even they must cooperate with the interests of the owning class or risk being shut out of key resources necessary for their reporting and therefore their income. The goal is to read reporting from all sources with the interests of the producers of that source in mind. You can read RT and get reliable information on some subjects just as you can read the kyivindependant and get reliable information on some subjects. Emphasis on some. It is unfortunately up to the reader to filter through bias, a skill that is suspisciously not taught well in our education.

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      Only the right-wing neolibs of world and their ilk, I find the users of ml and hexbear to be quite nice

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        Yeah, so nice they’re chill with gay, trans and asexual rights getting obliterated in russia

        Tankies are fuckin pathetic lmao

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          Downvotes are pro russian trolls

          Search engines are free. Russia criminalized gay, trans people and asexuals (the only country that specifically criminalizes asexuality iirc). You’re “defending” a fascist state lmao

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    ingests ‘facts’ and narratives from seemingly different sources that just happen to be financially backed/owned by the same small group of people

    no logical filtering or processing takes place before regurgitating them

    “I’m a free thinker who does their own research!”

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        Jeff Bezos, one of the richest men in the world today, known for employing folks that need to pee in bottles to comply with Amazon’s inhuman procedures or face losing their jobs, buys The Washington Post

        “They will hold the truth and journalistic integrity in high regard, and I can certainly trust them to prioritise them before financial gain and anything that can be done to achieve it.”

        I SWIM IN THE SEA OF THE UNCONSCIOUS