• kratoz29@lemmy.zip
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      22 days ago

      And yet it uses less RAM in Android phones compared to my goat, Firefox… Man FF needs a lot of improvements, all my complaints come from Android, the browser is perfect even on macOS!

      • mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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        22 days ago

        Firefox still doesn’t support tab groups on mobile. That’s a non-starter for me. Hopfully Ladybird has their shit better put together than mozilla when they finally release their browser

        • kratoz29@lemmy.zip
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          21 days ago

          I haven’t heard about that browser, it seems that it does its own thing, IDK man, if FF that has years in the market and still hasn’t caught up, I have no big hopes for “new” projects.

    • Epzillon@lemmy.world
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      22 days ago

      Would you mind giving some context? Ive never used Brave, but my dad does. In which sense is it a “scam”? Would want him to switch if its terrible

      • Sonalder@lemmy.ml
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        22 days ago

        People care more about CEO’s opinion on politics and hate Web3 crypto more than they understand technical browser stuff.

        Brave is far from perfect and the company had their contreveries but honestly if you disable all the cryptocrap and tweak it a tiny bit so it does not show you ads and feature you don’t use it is the best chromium browser in regards to security and privacy.

        Ungoogled chromium by default can’t even compare, it’s not crap but brave does so much more than it’s better for the vast majority of users.

    • majster@lemmy.zipEnglish
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      22 days ago

      brave search otoh is pretty gud. I believe they even do their own indexing.

  • Allero@lemmy.today
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    22 days ago

    Brave? Hard no. Vivaldi? Also no.

    Also, where are qutebrowser and Zen?

    qutebrowser and IceCat are real top of the game when it comes to privacy. But then, they break some of the sites functionality, especially IceCat who seems to be going under the “if your site doesn’t work, it’s your site’s problem” motto.

    • Epzillon@lemmy.world
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      22 days ago

      Which is honestly fair? Like, i would enjoy a “unsafe site, access anyways?” button, but if privacy settings break a page that literally is the pages fault for not respecting privacy.

      Edit: typo

      • Allero@lemmy.today
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        22 days ago

        Kinda, but I would like to tailor my experience a bit more than “all or nothing”.

        IceCat is directly a GNU project, so it’s highly ideological - which is important and respectable in a way, but then it gets adoption to near-zero because most sites just don’t work out of the box, and to make it work properly means completely removing all safeguards that make IceCat make sense. There’s little in between.

        I’d rather have something like LibreWolf, but without phone-home functionality, or at least a switch to turn it off. Out of all Firefox forks I know, only IceCat respects user privacy in this way - 0 connections on startup, and then only connection to actual site and whatever it requires.

        Opt-in telemetry (ideally - leveled) and manual bug information sending are totally fine, though.

          • Allero@lemmy.today
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            22 days ago

            Nothing in the browser should be proprietary. Any proprietary part is a possibility of malice, and browsers are mission critical.

            • LeTak@feddit.org
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              22 days ago

              I don’t disagree with that. It’s just that most browsers are built that way, unfortunately. Nothing is free, not even Firefox. If you want to sell it, it’s hard to maintain reasonable expectations that people won’t just build it from source instead of buying it. Something 100% free can’t maintain itself over long time.

              • Allero@lemmy.today
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                22 days ago

                Firefox is open source, and while it takes some shady practices to fund it (it sure isn’t cheap to run your own damn engine alongside everything on top), I take it as a more tenable compromise. It’s not about free as in beer freedom, it’s about basic security.

                You can also have degoogled Chromium which is open-source if you’re into it.

                • Zerush@lemmy.ml
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                  22 days ago

                  Even EDGE is a ungoogled Chromium (but containing M$ tracking APIs instead). Vivaldi IS a degoogled Chromium, a small part of the UI (by far the most advanced one of any other browser) is proprietary, but not really obfuscated, they show even in the support forum how the user can modding it, if for him isn’t enough what he can do in the most complete setting page ever, the only thing is, you can’t use it for other browser projects. It’s certainly not a privacy or security issue.

                  Chromium as is, is 100% FLOSS but because of this isn’t more private or secure as a proprietary soft, FLOSS isn’t automaticly synonym of privacy and security, a lot of people confuse it, it’s not the propósit of OpenSource, privacy and security of an soft depends only of the intentions of the developer or company, not if their soft is OSS or not. The user can audit the soft, which in any case is needed if he don’t want or be able to check millons of lines in the code which a complex soft like a browser engine has.

  • glimse@lemmy.world
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    22 days ago

    Just because PewDiePie switched to Linux doesn’t mean we should listen to his browser recommendations

    • Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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      22 days ago

      True but he’s sparking more interest in FOSS so that’s still a good thing. I doubt his advice is perfect but if it gets more people started onto their own journey it’s a win.

      • glimse@lemmy.world
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        22 days ago

        You’re right about that, I was moreso saying that his crappy browser tier list isn’t worth sharing

    • Dew@feddit.nl
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      22 days ago

      Very true, I feel like people miss the point of his own experience and/or opinion

    • FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.orgEnglish
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      22 days ago

      People on Lemmy seem to be Pewdiepie bootlickers. Idk why but it’s really weird. Apparently you can do whatever but as long as you promote Linux, Lemmy will love you. Ridiculous.

  • Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee
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    22 days ago

    … I don’t think listening to random big influencers is a good way forward (in anything).

    (As to the list - others already pointed out everything, y’all nerds know shit! <3)

  • comfy@lemmy.ml
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    22 days ago

    I know it’s been said, but Brave is a hard no. Replace it with Ungoogled Chromium. I haven’t seen the video so I don’t understand why it’s in the “not ideal for a normal human” list, and I am biased since I use plenty of “not for normal” tools.

  • Zagorath@aussie.zoneEnglish
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    22 days ago

    Why is the open source Chromium ranked worse than Google Chrome? Like sure, it’s not gonna go very high, but it deserves better than that.

  • TCB13@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    22 days ago

    The only problem with Ungoogled that makes it “not ideal for a normal human” is that fact that it is still cumbersome af to download it. Regular people don’t know github and how to click on “show all assets” and pick the right build.