I would really appreciate any help! I connected with this guy on a dating app a few months ago and we started texting. It naturally paused for a while because I was traveling during the holidays, and he said update him once I returned. However, I had to deal with a traumatic personal matter and needed time to decompress after the loss. I was still thinking of him though and knew I had to text him. A month later, I apologized and explained everything; he was thankfully understanding.

Eventually, it developed into having several phone calls for 2-3 hours each time (the first one initiated by me). Talking on the calls was so natural and just flew by. Then we soon met for our first date in person, and I know the order of events was perhaps already the road less traveled creating a disadvantage, but the date didn’t go well. He mentioned feeling nervous and kept asking if I was too leading up to the day of, so I tried to make him feel more at ease. I recognize that the guy does not owe the gal in that he needs to pay for her, as assumed by certain gender role stereotypes, but from my experience the majority have at least offered to cover a beverage and it is appreciated. He did not, and threw me off even more by taking my coffee (I ordered first and we ultimately had the same order), leaving me there awkwardly waiting for the next one to be made while he put his cream/sugar in. I felt that was strange and rude right off the bat, even with nerves.

When he mentioned the next spot he wanted to head to after that, we went inside but it was too crowded and I consider it to be one of my safe havens in general so I started feeling anxious about spending hours with him there especially after the coffee incident. I politely suggested a similar smaller, less crowded venue and he seemed offput, almost as if I was personally attacking his choice. We did go but he made remarks that alluded it fell short of his expectations. This was right before Valentine’s Day so I wasn’t exactly surprised when neither of us reached back out until he did 1.5 months later, apologizing for ghosting me and saying he wasn’t mentally ready for dating and felt really lost. I haven’t replied and it’s been another month.

Part of me wants to reply but I cringe at the thought of him ignoring it for another month and this continuing to drag out (I take accountability for contributing to that), or worse - ghosting me completely. I don’t see a romantic future with him at this point and want to handle this the right way, or perhaps more accurately damage control. Should I reply or leave it be? If reply, how should I phrase the text? Was the coffee thing just due to nerves? Thoughts on whether guys should pay on the first date and if it’s okay for the gal to counter with a different venue for the first date? Any other input/advice?

  • tsonfeir@lemm.ee
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    6 months ago

    Life is way too short. Text them. More than “hello” just ask them out again. If it doesn’t happen then who cares.

    Also, if he has a problem with a woman picking up the bill, he is a piece of shit.

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          6 months ago

          Please see my comment above to clarify what happened with the coffees. Don’t you think that was at least a bit rude of him?

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            6 months ago

            Getting coffee in a line can be awkward. Often times the barista assumes the two orders are together. Not having been there, it’s hard to know for sure. But if they said “anything else?” and you looked at him, that was you agreeing to pay.

            I find it’s best, before any date, to say that you only go Dutch treat. (Everyone funds their own way). The expectations are set. No one owes anyone back, and no one can feel like they wasted money if it doesn’t work out.

            Later on in the relationship, I personally find that splitting based on financial position is the best way to keep things equal. If I make twice what they do, a fancy restaurant that I suggest might be financially insensitive. If it’s a 75/25 split, that’s more fair to them.