Trying to keep my very picky eater 3yo healthy as we’re (hopefully) expanding his diet. Right now the only foods I can get him to actually eat are McDonald’s, a specific brand of yogurt, banana bread, some crackers and some bars. Refuses any beverage besides water. (He’s likely on the spectrum.)

  • njordomir@lemmy.world
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    My local healthy grocer (for lack of a better name) has “potato” chips made with veggie based ingredients like lentil flour, garbanzo bean flour, etc. Same is true for pasta.

    Also, from personal experience, get one of those rubber horse heads and make up an alter ego that talks about how much they looooove veggies and how carrots are their favorite food. You can have a friend or family member do it, but if “Veggie Vincent the Healthy Horse” shows up enough times and talks about all the healthy, delicious things we can eat to grow big and strong like him, it’s a step in the right direction, not to mention fun for everyone involved. :D

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    Some crackers have whole grain versions that taste as good or better than their white flour versions. Goldfish and Cheez-its are the two that come to mind. This doesn’t make them “healthy”, but at least there’s some better fiber in there. Compare nutrition labels.

    Also try veggie chips/sticks. Again, they’re not “healthy”, but… there’s some better stuff in them than normal junk food. They are junk food with a small amount of bonus nutrition.

    Freeze-dried fruit is addicting, but expensive. Try it and/or dehydrated fruit. The latter is chewy while freeze-dried is crunchy and melts in your mouth.

    You can also try making your own nuggets or tenders with whole-grain panko breadcrumbs, and seasoning. The trick is to make it better than McDonald’s, which is easy for an adult, but tricky for kids. I don’t know the magic sauce though.

    One of the latest Splendid Table podcasts had a guest on to talk about cooking healthy for kids (or she just wrote a book about it, I didn’t listen yet.) It’s a great show. Check that out.

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    I’d say give some guidance and be a good example yourself. Maybe make up some well reasoned rules… McDonalds is okay every now and then if you also eat healthy food every now and then. Make sure he gets some fibers and vitamins and maybe you can get even a small kid to understand that there is a reason behind it. In the end I don’t think you have to apply force… I’ve seen children grow up on mostly plain noodles, water and a few other things and they turned out alright. But also don’t enable such behaviour. I think there are some rough rules of thumb… Like a kid needs to try something 6 to 15 times to like it (at all). Liking food is a lot about what we’re accustomed to, and not just the taste. And the early time in life is important to develop a diverse palette. And the parents are an important role model, so if they don’t have a wide spectrum of food, the kids are also very unlikely to get any different, no matter what you do. I’d say maybe read a (good) book on the subject. This is a fairly common problem with children. (And drinking just water is fine. I’m not sure if that applies to 3 year olds, but in general that’s a healthy thing to do.)

    If your kid is special, you might have to try a few things and see what works. But from looking at several specimen, I’ve come to think children are very individual anyways and there’s often not one thing that applies to all of them. Some people have rules. Some make the food look good, maybe carve a crocodile out of a cucumber every now and then. You can manipulate a 3yo and serve them arbitrary food in McDonalds containers if it’s just that. Or have them watch other kids or people and see what they do to give some inspiration…

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    He’s 3 years old. He’ll eat when he gets hungry enough. He has no income, he can’t supplement his diet with McDs, just deny buying it. Sure you’ll have some tantrums, but better that now than trying to deal with it later.

    Parenting is not easy, it’s hard work, and with that comes hard decisions, including putting up with temper tantrums for the greater good.

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      He’ll eat when he gets hungry enough

      Says every person who has no experience with or knowledge of autistic people yet thinks they know better…

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    Freeze dried fruit. It makes fruit taste and crunch more like candy. My nephew goes crazy for freeze dried fruit. Blueberries, figs, mango, there’s so many to try

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      Yes! Also dates are great and last for a while on the shelf. They’re super sweet. Also raisins or trail mix. You can even make granola bars very easily with quick oats, peanut butter, honey or maple syrup, and trail mix. Sprinkle on a bit of salt for extra addictive.

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    I know you’ve thought of this, but encouraging you to try again. Ive found that kids will refuse something to eat and then come back to it later when they are actually hungry.
    It may take a tantrum and crazy cry session, but with love and attention they can normalize and get back towards a more normal diet.
    I get that kids have certain things they don’t like, but for anyone whose kids only eat things that are deep fry brown, I think it’s worth the short-term crisis to solve the long-term aggravation and health issues.

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      It may be spartan, but giving them a regular plate of homecooked dinner (with vegetables of course) and nothing else until they’ve finshed it, works most of the time. If not, they go to bed hungry which doesn’t hurt them (it hurts your sleep though) if it doesn’t happen every day. Like you said, they’ll likely come around, but you have to out-patience them.

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          No, I guess I should’ve mentioned to not abuse your child this way. Just like a microwave manual mentions that you should not put your cat in a microwave.

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            Problem is, withholding food is abuse, period. You’re telling someone who doesn’t have the same neurological capacities you do to either starve or eat something they very likely have a visceral reaction to.

            The other poster mentioned they missed the ‘potentially autistic’ part. While withholding food is abusive regardless,this for sure exacerbates the issues. I suspect you may have missed that part as well. It’s okay, just have some humility to step back and say so. Or keep advocating for old school abusive parenting.

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              Quite the contrary. It’s abusive to only feed your kids mcdonalds, because that’s the only thing they want. You’re telling someone who doesn’t have the nerological capacities you do that they can decide whatever they want to eat.

              My kids get a varied diet with all the nutrients they need. They can choose not to eat it, that’s fine, but I’m not going to give them mcdonalds instead. Mcdonalds does not provide the same nutrients as a well balanced meal.

              Sometimes I persuade them to “just eat a few bites” and than they can have desert as reward.

              Sometimes we go to mcdonalds or some other fast food thing. But that’s my choice, not theirs (mostly). And it’s an occasional thing and a family event, like maybe once per month.

              Maybe this approach doesn’t work for neurodivergent kids, but I never claimed it did. If you have a neurodivergent kid, you should maybe look into other methods. I should add that I also don’t know if this works for children of all ages, genders, races, handicaps, species, planets and dimensions. It works good enough for my kids and I’m taking that as a win.

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                Right. So maybe go back to the last paragraph, admit you probably missed the potential neurodivergency, and show some humility. Or double down and continue to offer bad advice.

                No one here has said just let the kid eat what they want. Not OP, not me, not anyone else. We all want the kid to eat a better diet. That’s literally the purpose of this thread.

                The problem is that, for non-typical situations, typical solutions don’t work. And, even for typical situations, starvation isn’t the best option. We’re trying to explore other possibilities, rather than the traditional ones, and being told “force the kid, you’re the parent” is at best tone deaf.

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                  I see were this is going wrong. The last sentence of OP’s post says:

                  (He’s likely on the spectrum)

                  That wasn’t there yesterday.

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    Dry cereal always worked (still does!) as a nutritious snack. Granted, the nutrition has all been sprayed on, but it’s still there.

    A little mixed tub of Cornflakes/Branflakes/Rice Crispies/Coco Pops always goes down well.

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      That’s a good idea. He’s turned down all the cereals we routinely buy, but I should experiment with more of those.

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    Applesauces with no sugar added?

    Refusing anything but water isn’t necessarily bad.

    He probably wants things with a predictable mouth feel and neutral temperature that aren’t overpowering.

    Hotdogs tend to be popular (the cheap ones).

    If you haven’t tried cheese toast, it may be an option, although you need to be careful about the type of cheese.

    Also worth trying baby carrots and seedless grapes that don’t have browned ends and are off the stem.

    Something else that may be useful is having him help make some snacks; kids will often eat things they’ve made themselves when they won’t accept the same thing from someone else.

    If you can afford it, you could also try a sampling party where you buy a small portions of 5 or so similar items at a time, and get him to taste them all and tell you which is the worst and best. Don’t bring “will you eat this” into it at all: it’s a game and he has to rank them. In order to rank them he has to taste them.

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    Flinstone vitamins, maybe? Or any other kids gummy vitamins.

    I would highly recommend talking with a child therapist before this becomes an ingrained habit, if you haven’t already.

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      It’s also worth getting them checked out by a gastroenterologist. Sometimes picky eating is a subconscious thing to avoid having the shits all the time.

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        I’m not trying to downplay the reality of serious health concerns sometimes being behind food habits, but I think I need to say…

        Picky eating is an absolutely normal part of child development. Anecdotally, both of my kids went through two distinct phases of picky eating, at around 3-5 and 8-11.

        They gradually grow out of it. All you can do is try to make sure what they are eating is nutritious enough while they are going through it.

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      Yes, that may be the answer. He’s getting help through early intervention and on the waitlist to get tested for autism so see if that’s what’s causing his picky eating. Luckily his pediatrician is not urgently concerned about his diet because he’s growing well enough and seems healthy, but since I’ve stopped breastfeeding I’ve been keeping track of what foods he’s been eating and noticed how few vitamins are in all the things he’ll eat.

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        Op, I agree with getting some gastric testing, if possible. I may or not be divergent, testing is cost prohibitive. But I was diagnosed as a child with IBS and still have occasional issues after food poisoning set backs a while ago. After getting that straightened out, a decent probiotic cap with fiber set me back on track until I could eat a mostly veggie diet, until the robber Barron corporate overlords started pricing decent food so crazily. You can add nutrition to crackers or bread with nut butters if your toddler will have them. If toddler requires more sweetness, try adding as little maple syrup as possible, and honey if his practitioner deems it ok.

        Have you tried home made sweet potato fries (oven baked or air fry is fine, you’d have to look up how to oven fry them), or if your child will eat baked sweet potatoe with a little real butter they are highly nutritious and gut friendly. It’s just hard to say because one of the many reasons I may be asd is it doesn’t matter how much I like the flavor of something, if I don’t like the feel or consistency of a food, I’m simply not having it.

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    I mean, there are literally multivitamin gummies at any decent grocery store. If you want a processed food snack that’s got vitamins that’s where I’d start.

    My advice, being on the spectrum myself, would be to be open about the fact that they’re multivitamin gummies, ie don’t try to lie and present them as “desert”. But tell him you’d like to treat them as desert even though they aren’t so he can help get some vitamins.

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      He’s a super picky eater. I serve him a wide variety but the only things he’ll actually eat are the more predictable, processed stuff so I’m trying to make sure he’s at least getting all the vitamins and nutrients he needs.