• redcalcium@lemmy.institute
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    6 months ago

    Protesters violently storming US capitol

    US police: I sleep

    Protesters peacefully protesting Israel

    US police: real shit

  • taladar@sh.itjust.works
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    6 months ago

    Not that it is not worrying that peaceful protesters are arrested but but 2 months are just roughly 4 times two weeks while Hong Kong’s population (7.35 million) is just 1/45th of the US population (333 million).

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      6 months ago

      And some of them really strain the definition of peaceful. My university’s library was just occupied and trashed by people claiming to be “peaceful” protestors. They of course use their extra special definition of peaceful that doesn’t include property damage. Their protest accomplished nothing, but it shut down campus for most of a week and will deny any physical access to the library building for weeks or months. And of course students ultimately get to pay for it, one way or another.

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      6 months ago

      I think it would be more accurate to look at the size of the protests, because not the entire population is out protesting.

  • EndOfLine@lemm.ee
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    6 months ago

    Does anybody know where they getting the numbers for this claim? I see that they sited “Associated Press and other sources” for the US protest arrest numbers, but no source for Hong Kong protest arrests numbers.

    I would like to find some collaboration for this claim and all I can find for Hong Kong is a count of deaths, injuries, arrests, and charges once public protests had effectively ceased.

    • CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      6 months ago

      My other question is whether the numbers for HK protests are low because, well, it’s fucking China, and two that they weren’t out there to take names. They were there to destroy people’s will.

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      6 months ago

      For the Associated Press, 2,300 arrests.

      The numbers I’m seeing for Hong Kong are in excess of 10,000 in connection with the protests, but those protests lasted for a lot longer (20 months) and were much larger. Millions marched, representing a large portion of the population. The video specifically selected a semi-arbitrary time frame of several months. I guess the idea is to select a slice of the time frame of the Hong Kong protests that produced 2,300 arrests?

      The protests in the US just haven’t been comparable in size or length. And there is where the comparison is going to be awkward. These sorts of protests have a history of burning themselves out fairly quickly in the US. I remember Occupy Wall Street and its spin offs lasted a few months, made its mark, but kind of fizzled. The BLM/George Floyd protests of 2020 had the same thing happen. Not that Occupy or BLM themselves died, but the clashes that were driving arrests ended. So in the end, I’m not really sure what the comparison with Hong Kong was supposed to show.