I’ve paid for Spotify for years and it is, without a doubt, getting shittier. They removed the integrated google maps car mode without a real replacement. They push podcasts, which most users do not care about, heavily now, despite having poor support for them UX-wise. They keep moving UI elements around without purpose. I’ve read they also have an exploitative revenue model for musicians on the service, but haven’t confirmed that bit myself.
Spotify has a huge user base but most people pay nothing. They’ll be leaving if they never learn how to leech more money from artists and listeners. Thus, these kind of desperate moves like hiding lyrics.
The TikTok thing is likely influenced by the possible ban in US.
As their users keep growing they can charge more in ads, but to your point, they will have to find a way to get more people to pay for the service. Maybe they need tiered pricing. One price for no ads and another price for additional features like lyrics.
Apple has many more subscribers than in the USA, but I know Europe uses Spotify more. Being the biggest means they are more top heavy in the market.
But the funny thing is that even with a larger user base, Spotify has NEVER posted a profit (which gets significantly more negative each year). They also have been loosing a substantial percentage of their revenue per user each year as they further enshittify their platform.
They should be VERY concerned about losing users, and taking away features will end up doing just that.
So confused. A bunch of people using a platform for free criticizing them for never making a profit, then complaining when they try to make a profit by charging for a feature that doesn’t interfere with listening to music?
Yes I feel the same way about YouTube, and I’m confident many others do as well.
You can pretend that users who trade their time listening to and viewing ads don’t deserve the to be upset with enshittification, but I wholeheartedly disagree. That line of thinking tracks very well with Musk’s approach to X, another service that was the “biggest” but not profitable. Look how they have done moving features behind paywalls and upending the expectations of their user base.
Twitter was hardly ever profitable. I understand what you’re saying, that they need to keep growing their free user base to become profitable with ads, but they can’t do it with ads alone and I’m sure they’re time crunched. I could see them selling to a larger corporation at some point you think you dislike Spotify now. Just wait.
Twitter was hardly profitable, but Spotify has never posted a profit. In fact, they are more negative in regard to profit every year. Twitter and Spotify are very similar in that their main success is volume, but not profitability.
I have no doubt Spotify could or would sell and get even worse. Just like Twitter.
People use it BECAUSE it was free and feature rich. When they start taking away the latter to bolster the former, you’ll see a migration to the next best free, feature rich service. I quit Spotify 4 months ago, and I don’t feel like I’m missing out on anything.
not this alone, but as one person commented, the lyrics were a deciding factor of Spotify over YouTube Music. this among other features could draw more paid users. do other platforms offer lyrics that follow the music for free?
Sure but they’re not leaving… They have the largest user base by over 100M. Is that why u added the “lmao”? Sarcasm?
I left over the past year 🤷♂️ I imagine more and more will do so as the service continues to slide further to shit
Me too, and Lemmy inspired me to unsub! 😉
What is shit about it though? Just pay for it. It’s worth it.
I’ve paid for Spotify for years and it is, without a doubt, getting shittier. They removed the integrated google maps car mode without a real replacement. They push podcasts, which most users do not care about, heavily now, despite having poor support for them UX-wise. They keep moving UI elements around without purpose. I’ve read they also have an exploitative revenue model for musicians on the service, but haven’t confirmed that bit myself.
never knew about the Google maps mode. works for me: https://support.spotify.com/us/article/google-maps/
TikTok has a huge user base and they’re leaving.
Spotify has a huge user base but most people pay nothing. They’ll be leaving if they never learn how to leech more money from artists and listeners. Thus, these kind of desperate moves like hiding lyrics.
The TikTok thing is likely influenced by the possible ban in US.
As their users keep growing they can charge more in ads, but to your point, they will have to find a way to get more people to pay for the service. Maybe they need tiered pricing. One price for no ads and another price for additional features like lyrics.
Apple has many more subscribers than in the USA, but I know Europe uses Spotify more. Being the biggest means they are more top heavy in the market.
But the funny thing is that even with a larger user base, Spotify has NEVER posted a profit (which gets significantly more negative each year). They also have been loosing a substantial percentage of their revenue per user each year as they further enshittify their platform.
They should be VERY concerned about losing users, and taking away features will end up doing just that.
So confused. A bunch of people using a platform for free criticizing them for never making a profit, then complaining when they try to make a profit by charging for a feature that doesn’t interfere with listening to music?
Do y’all feel the same way about YouTube?
Yes I feel the same way about YouTube, and I’m confident many others do as well.
You can pretend that users who trade their time listening to and viewing ads don’t deserve the to be upset with enshittification, but I wholeheartedly disagree. That line of thinking tracks very well with Musk’s approach to X, another service that was the “biggest” but not profitable. Look how they have done moving features behind paywalls and upending the expectations of their user base.
Okay, well YouTube isn’t going anywhere.
Twitter was hardly ever profitable. I understand what you’re saying, that they need to keep growing their free user base to become profitable with ads, but they can’t do it with ads alone and I’m sure they’re time crunched. I could see them selling to a larger corporation at some point you think you dislike Spotify now. Just wait.
Twitter was hardly profitable, but Spotify has never posted a profit. In fact, they are more negative in regard to profit every year. Twitter and Spotify are very similar in that their main success is volume, but not profitability.
I have no doubt Spotify could or would sell and get even worse. Just like Twitter.
People use it BECAUSE it was free and feature rich. When they start taking away the latter to bolster the former, you’ll see a migration to the next best free, feature rich service. I quit Spotify 4 months ago, and I don’t feel like I’m missing out on anything.
what are you using instead?
I switched to Apple Music. It’s not my fav, but the bundle with other apple services made the price right for a family plan.
cool. i’ll check it out. i have almost all streaming services except Apple TV and don’t plan on getting it so might not make sense for me.
Do you really believe this will make them more money?
not this alone, but as one person commented, the lyrics were a deciding factor of Spotify over YouTube Music. this among other features could draw more paid users. do other platforms offer lyrics that follow the music for free?