Yellow card for faking an injury in soocer
I would add that at any given time during a football game a fan can throw a new football on the field and two balls may be in-play at that time.
why?
Basketball. Same everything, except you have to dribble the ball with your forehead.
Read that as Baseball and was very concerned
NHL Hockey: Goaltenders eligible for contact if handling the puck outside the crease, and outside the trapezoid. Same as any other players.
NHL Hockey: Goaltenders eligible for contact if handling the puck outside the crease, and outside the trapezoid. Same as any other players.
Cricket:
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Remove the backdoor no ball. It does not benefit the sport but puts a lot of stress on bowlers bodies, knees in particular. The most commonly injured body part for bowlers. They land with 6x the impact of their bodyweight on one knee 6 times an over, like 20 overs a day. No good.
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So much I would change in Odis that i dont even have the energy to wrote it all.
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A shit ton of administrative changes.
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Mankads to no longer be stigmatised (they are legal already)
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Allow some level of ball tampering, by which I mean not using anything but allowing some controlled substances.
- Wait, how does the back foot no ball cause players stress? I thought that rule mostly impacts spin bowling, but it’s fast bowlers who are at greatest risk of knee injury.
- Come on. You can’t leave us hanging like that! At least name a few of the changes you’d suggest.
- See above
- Strongly agree. Batsmen are able to get an advantage by proceeding up the pitch early. Mankadding is required to even the playing field. Imagine in baseball if sneaking a base was allowed, but not pitchers getting you out for it!
- Strong disagree. There’s enough evolution of the ball over the course of a test as it is. We don’t need artificial substances any more than triathletes need to start allowing steroids.
- Strong disagree, with the exception that maybe they could make allowances for genuine injuries, if there’s a safeguard preventing abuse of that. Creating a good team composition with a balance of the right kinds of players for the match is a core part of cricket. Allowing substitutions to cricket would be like if rugby started doing the gridiron thing of swapping out defensive and offensive teams.
As far as format rules go: I’d ban anything shorter than ODI. T20 and the IPL in particular are ruining cricket, with too many young players learning that style and becoming worse cricketers unable to adapt to the truest form of the game. The way the media went on and on about Sam Konstas because of his showboaty shitty T20 play style. Never mind that Webster, who debuted in the same series as an all-rounder to Konstas’ specialist batsman averaged significantly more.
The only other rule that immediately comes to mind is one I’ve been told is being addressed. The ridiculous boundary catch rule. You shouldn’t be allowed to jump from outside the boundary to keep the ball alive. Spectacular jumps from inside the boundary, throwing it back over the rope from outside before landing, either to another player or to yourself if you’re able to get back in the field of play, are awesome. Hopping while continuously outside the field of play is not. Thankfully, I’ve heard they’re fixing this soon, if they haven’t already.
- MCC law for no balls.
21.5.1 the bowler’s back foot must land within and not touching the return crease appertaining to his/her stated mode of delivery.
21.5.2 the bowler’s front foot must land with some part of the foot, whether grounded or raised
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on the same side of the imaginary line joining the two middle stumps as the return crease described in 21.5.1, and
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behind the popping crease.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23098100/
Theres a lot of research on it. Even the intro to the first link should give you a basic overview if you’re not interested about going in depth.
Basically, bowlers try to maximize stride length without overstepping. This often leads to forcefully “planting” the front foot close to the popping crease.
Also try to land just behind the crease for maximum reach and pace which leads to overstriding, causing hyperextension of the knee. Pcl knee injuries follow.
When bowlers shorten their stride or change delivery angle to avoid overstepping they also risk injury.
- Well first of all I’d like to just scrap Odis, they no longer serve a purpose in the sport. T20s have replaced them. (I dont want to get into the history of it all in an already long reply)
But if they did stay. Field restrictions and powerplays are ridiculous. Ball changes are ridiculous.
We use two new balls in ODI cricket now, and that makes people angry. But we actually used two balls in 50 over cricket always. Because leather won’t dye white correctly as it does with red, the balls are lighter in colour for their natural state. But to make them bright white they have their colour sprayed on.
White balls start harder and swing more than red ones, and after five or so overs are softer and stop swinging. Then as they degrade quicker, they pick up dirt and grass as well. So they stop doing anything at all, you can’t see them, or hit them as far. They are simply not fit for purpose.
Before what would happen is that at one stage in an ODI, the umpires would look at the sad, grey piece of sponge and decide to replace it. Later on they just unofficially changed it around the 35/36 over mark with a ball that was used, but not abused.
So at the end of 2011, the ICC made a decision that still annoys many ODI fans. They abandoned the one new ball and one soiled ball strategy and went with two new balls. Which they had done before.
Now i believe they are changing it back.
I instead want the pink ball used in Odis. Also move Odis to 40 overs.
A. I just talked about balls so let me say they are the most important part of cricket alongside pitches. Maybe second. OK you want pitches to be influenced by local knowledge and culture. But why tf are balls not standardised. We have no clue what is going on with cricket balls.
In 2017 or so kookaburra reinforced their balls seam which made the ball seam more and for longer bringing down batting averages and completely changing the sport, the way people bowled and batted and swlcted players. Some players lost their careers due to it. Kookaburra just did it on their own, no questions no research no accountability.
The ICC need to have their own ball development and research company. We have the same antiquated balls for no reason. We can change the material and have a non leather ball! Why hasn’t SG and the BCCI focused on that?!?! We could change anything here and create smth that isn’t destroyed in 35 overs. Something that has better bounce. The sky is the limit.
B. Reform the stupid chaotic calendar with dedicated windows. Have distinct international windows each year, alongside divisional structures for all three formats. Have relegation systems. Scheduling windows for ‘Core International Cricket’ – which should be implemented to cover one match per format against all other teams within consistent divisional championships.
C. Have a pathway to test status. Noone knows what they gotta do to get status.
D. Revenue sharing model needs to be changed. A centralised Global Growth and Development Fund – to be established, underpinned by pooled rights model applicable only to Core International Cricket, to fund Core International Cricket and other global initiatives ICC revenue distribution – occurring within minimum and maximum parameters Stronger regulation and accountability – on how distributed money is spent in all countries Player revenue sharing parameters – to be applied in all sanctioned cricket.
70% of the game’s revenues are generated across just three months of the year, that 83% of all revenue is shared by three countries, and that revenues generated by bilateral cricket outside the big three constitutes less than 4%. Total player payments across cricket, it says, represent approximately 10% of all cricket revenue.
WCA projects a more optimal calendar (with windows and greater context) could result in an additional USD 246 million revenue for the game annually. It calls for the establishment of minimum and maximum distribution parameters of ICC revenues, giving as an example, “a minimum 2% and maximum 10% for the top 24 countries, and a minimum 10% distribution collectively for countries 25+.” That would see the BCCI’s share being cut from 38.5% in the current model to 10%.
Players, it says, should also receive a minimum percentage of revenue generated in all sanctioned cricket, across internationals, T20 leagues and ICC events. Another recommendation is the creation of a global growth and development fund, which would go towards sustaining the base level of Core International Cricket for the top 24+ countries. This fund would be built from a percentage of ICC events revenue, T20 leagues and pooled media rights from Core International Cricket - a concept that has been aired before at the ICC but always dismissed.
The issue is the bcci.
E. Archives and access to games. Have an ICC channel where people can subscribe and watch all games from the past. Live stream current games in countries where rights are undervalued or unsold atleast. And access to ICC events. The ICC allows no cricket to be shown and hinders growth. I lobe the way American sports allow you to watch the game atleast. Look at what they did to poor robelinda.
F. Eliminate stupid NOC requirements. Players shouldn’t have to need permission from the board to do their job, especially players who aren’t even centrally contracted.
G. Global cricket needs to come together with clear leadership to reflect the sport’s changing landscape and prevent fragmentation. The way the shady ass sport is run is terrible.
H. Figure out the league stuff. Player non payments, spot fixing etc. A lot happens beyond the test nations leagues. So not as worried bout the cpl or IPL but a random game in Singapore or Canada is sus.
I. Do smth about sports betting. Also a governments issue so I don’t even know where to begin. Atleast work with betting companies to get some insight.
J. Have people be responsible for things. Noone has direct power over anything and noone takes responsibility over anything.
No one is actually in charge of the sport as a genuine custodian of the global game as a whole. Regional interests dominate and lead to short-term decisions. There is no independent leadership. The game is run by the most powerful boards, without any representation from leagues, franchises, players or women.
I say trash the ICC and create smth from scratch. Practically impossible ofc.
My reply wouldn’t post in one go. Jesus I speak too much.
Here’s the continuation.
Thing is each of these I could write 6000 words on. All of this requires a lot of talking and has a lot of stakeholders and powers affecting it, cricket is a mess. I genuinely think Saudi coming in is gonna help the sport lol. https://youtu.be/CU77TgMksSU Link to my favourite sports journalist. Incredible writer and researched, really understands admin and the sport. Amazing yt channel.
Ive used the wca report in this point too at places, like the revenue share point. Also scheduling.
- Players use sweat rn, saliva has been reintroduced too. I know of players having used the horse nail strengthener on their nails to affect the ball. Reports and stories of people doing all sorts of things to affect the ball, sandpaper gate too ofc.
Now all of these have issues, especially health and hygiene. Saliva can cause diseases to spread. If we allow some sort of solution that replaces sweat (a major issue was that collecting sweat was annoying, with saliva you always instantly have enough). If you give the umpire a bottle of a sweat mimicking substance, saline solution or smth, that the bowlers can use to shine the ball it eliminates the issue.
- There is no reason cricket doesn’t have subs. Other sports started having them and we were left behind and over time just decided to call it tradition.
If both teams have 15 players you need a balanced composition of 15 players. You’ll see this issue come up every WC when all fans are arguing about wanting one extra spinner or pacer or whatever else. When both teams have the same number of players you’ll always need to find the balance.
Do we go in with 7 bowlers and 8 batters? Can we afford a specialist keeper? A specialist fielder? It only adds to the game, doesn’t take away anything. One more strategic element.
This is also very important for injury prevention. Say Lyon gets injured first innings and the aussie pace trio has to bowl out his over too! Can you imagine the physical toll that would take over 5 days!
And don’t suggest injury subs they dont work. Players, bowlers in particular are always somewhat injured.
- Move cricket to 2 overs from each end before and change. This is smth I forgot to say in the original comment. Half as many ads and reduce time waste of changing ends and fields so often.
No offense but I hate the t20 is ruining cricket idea. No it isn’t. It is cricket. I also dislike the soul of cricket idea. and yes i exclusively watch test cricket myself, plus world cups. OK the occasional t20 too, but barely.
As for Sam Konstas, ofc the media would do that! Hes the first teen to play for aus in forever, they dont play players so young. He’s opening! The toughest batting position by far. In a country with no openers.
Beau is at 6-7 the easiest batting position, facing the easiest bowlers at the easiest times. Hes 31 or so and aus have 5 other similar players. Hes a goo d plug and play option pur nothing special.
Konstas took on bumrah, the greatest ever 3 format bowler and the best test bowler atm. With the new ball! On debut! At 19! In AUS!
Alone maybe none of those things would be insane, together they are. Plus he rattled the Indian team, kohli etc fighting a kid was pathetic.
I don’t think the jumps are a big deal, they are a fun lil thing, if they change it I don’t mind, if they dont I don’t care. It’ll successfully happen once in like 200 games and be a very cool moment.
Banning betting itself is likely impossible, but a good start would be to ban teams or grounds from being sponsored by betting companies, and ban players from being involved with betting companies’ advertising campaigns.
Banning is certainly possible. Just that it would make no differance. Never has banning something stopped it. It would just hide it.
If betting is allowed, you can see trends in the market to find smth sus to find fixing. If if isn’t, what happens behind the scenes is anyone’s guess. We do it want anymore fixing controversies in cricket. No other sport is as susceptible or as commonly accused of being fixed by the fans themselves as cricket is.
I mean there was a fake league made with actors as players for illegal betting purposes in India! The league was in Indonesia or somewhere (bit actually was in India too). Players were given scripts ball by ball. Cricket is insane.
Also even if you ban em, they will come up as smth else. As a sports app or smth, same company but acting like they aren’t a betting company.
So say cricinfo sponsors a team saying we just show news and scores but there heavily advertises their betting app. (This is an example, not literally true) although other companies have done so.
The athletic have gone in depth about this, would suggest checking it out.
Or again, Jarrod Kimber.
I agree its nearly impossible. But even I’d it were done it would survive.
Yeah I don’t really want to ban gambling itself. It’s completely impractical, but even if you could do it successfully, I don’t want to police people’s vices. What I have a problem with is how normalised it is and how much it has become a part of the culture of sport. Children should not be exposed to the idea that gambling is completely normal just because they want to watch their favourite pros playing their favourite game.
The history of sport and gambling is heavily intertwined. I don’t like gambling either but I really have no clue what to do about it.
- From what I can see, that first link is addressing the front foot. But your original comment, and what I was confused about, is why the back foot placement needing to be inside the return crease is an issue.
Well first of all I’d like to just scrap Odis, they no longer serve a purpose in the sport. T20s have replaced them.
Ha. Interesting. Personally, I mostly only care for tests anyway. The ODI World Cup is far superior to the T20 World Cup though. I’d keep ODIs around for that reason if no other.
I actually wouldn’t mind banning T20i entirely. If T20 has to exist, let it stay domestic.
Your stuff about scheduling and pathways reminded me of something. ICC already has rules for full membership and test-playing status. One of those rules is that a country must have a women’s team to qualify. They need to enforce this rule. It’s ridiculous that the Taliban gets to sports-wash via the ICC just because the government they overthrew was making genuine progress.
Agree strongly that BCCI’s influence over the ICC is detrimental to the game, and your ideas around revenue sharing and other management stuff are good ones.
Eliminate stupid NOC requirements
As long as it is never allowed for players to choose to play a T20 rather than a test match.
- Bowlers with wide “open” actions naturally plant their back foot outside the return crease to maintain alignment. Forcing them inward (to stay within the return crease) alters hip and shoulder alignment.
Bowlers may adjust their run-up angle or foot landing to stay legal which is bad for em too.
Banning t20i is impossible and ridiculous! I know many dont like it, me included, bilaterals in particular. But its unnecessary, impossible and brings barely any benefit
YES. IVE BEEN HARPING ABOUT REMOVING AFGHANISTANS TEST STATUS FOREVER!
Players should absolutely have the right to play what they want! Unless they are centrally contracted. In which case, do your job
- Remove the backdoor no ball. It does not benefit the sport but puts a lot of stress on bowlers bodies, knees in particular. The most commonly injured body part for bowlers. They land with 6x the impact of their bodyweight on one knee 6 times an over, like 20 overs a day. No good.
I can get behind any rule that exists to protect the players. Sports are inherently physical but they shouldn’t endanger the athletes.
One of the reasons why I have a hard time getting behind boxing/certain martial arts as sports, it just feels like slightly more sanitized gladiatorial combat.
I think fighting sports have their place in society. We’ve had them forever across so many cultures that i can’t really dislike em.
We just enjoy violence I guess. Better it be controlled than not.
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Soccer: yellow card for faking injuries (you can easily see players close to death that jumps us and run if no whistle is blown) and for protesting with the referee. Also, microphoned referee so that the whole audience can hear what they say (it will result in LOTS of red cards until respect is shown)
Basketball: intentional foul is two free throws and ball, three in the last 2 minutes
Football: proper helmets
Is a yellow for simulation just a Premier League & UEFA thing then? I assumed most top flight leagues did this now
Miked up refs should have been a thing for years, it very obviously will reduce corruption. In rugby, anytime the ref is making a decision it’s all over the PA, plus you can get a little earpiece in the stadium to hear every single word they say
I’d go even further and say red card for taking a dive. Pretending to be struck/hit by another player in an attempt to get an advantage = cheating. Cheaters shouldn’t be allowed to play.
It got a little better after they started with video ref’ing, but 90’s Italian football still left its mark on the sport.
Soccer: yellow card for faking injuries
Yellow card for simulation is already a rule. It’s just not applied all that consistently, possibly because it’s very hard to be sure that someone definitely wasn’t fouled and also was deliberately feigning anything, as opposed to genuinely being hurt or at least being knocked over by a nonetheless fair challenge.
Microphoned ref is becoming a thing now, but I absolutely hate it. Just like VAR it slows the game down horrendously and is not needed. Refs have the tools they need to run the game (including hand gestures and red cards, as you said). They don’t need to explain every last thing verbally.
I’ve maintained that for VAR, if they can’t figure out if there’s a mistake in the call within 30s then just uphold the prior decision. I can’t think of many situations where this would be enough of an issue
Yellow card for faking injuries
Make it red, and add a multi-match ban for repeat offenders. This is a culture problem in the sport that should have been dealt with years ago. I can only imagine how effective it would be to just send off a player for simulating. No questions asked. I would love to see the look on their face when they flop down and are immediately escorted off the pitch.
I think a simple matter that if you roll around on the ground “in pain,” you get removed for medical attention and for the rest of the game for monitoring. If you’re injured, you’re injuried. If you’re being a whiny baby, you don’t deserve to be in the game. If you’re faking, you deserve to be ejected. But in all cases it comes to the same conclusion.
Oh, and this doesn’t automatically mean a foul. It’s not like a person can’t get hurt when no foul occurs. I hurt myself stepping out of bed in the morning.
yellow card for faking injuries…and for protesting with the referee.
Huge yes. I support the others saying it could even be a red card. The astonishingly bad sportsmanship from soccer players compared to other sports is a big reason it will never be taken seriously in countries like Australia. Diving is nothing short of cheating, and it’s developed to such an extent that even children are frequently imitating the stars they see on TV and doing it in local club games.
In Australian football, which is played on cricket ovals ranging in size, but ~150 m long is a good ballpark figure, it takes very little talkback to the umpires (tbh, I’ve seen the rule overused in cases where it really didn’t seem appropriate) before they’ll march you 50 m. The opposing team gets not just a free kick, but a free kick from 50 metres closer to their offensive goal than where the original infringement took place.
Football: proper helmets
Assuming you mean gridiron football, I don’t know exactly what you mean (how are the current helmets not “proper”?), but I would say exactly the opposite. The illusion of safety the helmet gives is part of what leads to concussions and CTE.
I’d do away with the helmet entirely. Go bald, or with a simple scrum cap, like in rugby union and rugby league. Techniques will have to adapt somewhat, but that’s how all sports have to adapt to technological changes.
You’re essentially saying “ban gridiron football” because every aspect of the game would have to change if they weren’t wearing those pads. And it almost was banned in 1905 because college players were dying. That’s when the forward pass was introduced, diverging sharply from rugby.
Football:
- A lot of financial and psr rules.
- Add rolling subs like basketball.
- Wenger style offside rule. If any part of the attacking players body is behind the last defender, its onside.
- Be stricter against defensive players brutally slashing wingers.
- Stop pthe stupid carding over showboating.
On point 3, that doesn’t solve the issue, it just moves it a yard or so back. The linesmen and women will still have to make the exact same judgement about what was in line with what.
The purpose is not to make the call easier, although by research from the Chinese second division it does (I’m not sure if om correct here, this is by memory)
The actual purpose is to increase goals per match. Sitting deep would become less practical for getafe like teams.
Oh, I see what you mean - sorry, misunderstood which issue was being solved!
I’m still not sure about such a change, but fair enough, my argument wasn’t really pertinent.
Re 1, are you suggesting salary cap? Because I seriously find it insane that there’s no salary cap on soccer. It makes the highest levels of the sport a complete joke. Only 5 teams have won the EPL since 2004, and if you go to 6 teams you get to 1995. That’s not a healthy competitive environment.
IMO offside should use running photo finish rules. The forward most part of one player’s torso needs to be behind the forward most part of the other player’s torso. It’s the most simple and intuitive method, IMO.
A salary cap can’t work in sports. I simply dont see how that could ever work. For example look at the IPL (Indian cricket) where players are paid off the books using sponsors etc.
I know the competition is an issue in football but what has solved it is actually the clubs that aren’t restricted lol. PSG, Man City, Chelsea are 3 oof the clubs that have won the UCL recently.
I think multi club models should be banned, I think you should be forced to have 20% of the ownership be in the hands of socios or fans. Germany does 51%.
Ofc loopholes will always be found in any rule, just ask Chelsea. So I’m not convinced any rule would improve the economics or competition.
Look at laliga who put preemptive salary caps over revenue percentage. Barca avoid any repercussions. Meanwhile almeria, an ambitious club, a club owned by one of the richest mem in Spain is relegated bc they couldn’t invest asuchbas they would’ve liked (although I smell smth shady there too).
Next issue is that different competitions are held by different associations so spanish fa rules for laliga meanwhile uefa rules for the UCL. There is no centralisation as there is in american sports. And then the cwc now with Fifa rules. Plus who makes these rules is another problem.
There are voting blocks created and a lot of politics by dinosaurs (the world cup hosting rights are a good example of what always happens).
Then theres balloon payments I’m the EPL, relegated clubs get more money than other championship teams for a while. Fairness questions are ridiculous bc fairness is impossible.
People dislike oil money but is it worse than other sources? Worse than old money?
As for competition, teams in the UCL will always make more money, either you do the ESL and remove the leagues do all the mammoths fcacd each other on equal grounds or you accept it as is.
Sorry for the rambling I typed while eating and my brain and hands were a mess.
A salary cap can’t work in sports
Uhh, wrong? Like, provably, obviously wrong, from all the sports that do successfully implement it. There isn’t a single Australian league of note without a salary cap, including the soccer A League and T20 cricket Big Bash. American sports also largely have salary caps.
You’re not wrong that there are problems and loopholes that need to be carefully addressed, but that is not a reason not to do it at all. It’s a reason to look to examples elsewhere and learn from their successes and mistakes, and improve upon them.
It’s a matter of fairness and good competition. A team with huge pockets being able to win half the time is grossly unfair and against the spirit of sport. And it’s not fun as a fan or spectator when the same few teams win over and over again.
People dislike oil money but is it worse than other sources? Worse than old money?
I don’t think this is necessarily relevant to a salary cap discussion. Maybe a team gets its funding from Old Money. Maybe it gets them from oil. But with a salary cap, the impact of either of those is much less, since a much higher percentage of funding will be directly from revenue generated by the team itself, and the league more generally.
Fwiw though my answer is yes. Old Money did crimes decades and centuries ago. And that’s obviously less bad than ongoing crimes today. By analogy: if you had to pick, which is better: to put someone in gaol for a murder they committed 40 years ago, or prevent someone else from being able to commit murder later this year? For me the answer is obvious.
It works in american sports bc there is no promotion or relegation. Can’t work in a sport with it. I know the big bash has no more teams than the few that participate and cricket economic model is even worse.
American sports play under one federation. Who do you want enforcing the rules? Uefa? Fifa? The national fa? The national league? Other national sporting authorities? Other European sporting authorities? Other global sporting authorities?
Who’s laws do they follow? National? Continental? International? Regional? How do you create an even field when some teams are getting UCL money and dominating local leagues?
Do you make man city give their UCL winnings tk Southampton? How do you account for the Italian tax system?
Again its not possible in football. Not that no financial law is possible, just that the salary cap won’t work. Bc the revenue of teams can never be the same.
Barca can spend 40% of their revenue on sporting expenses and so can Cadiz. They just have different revenues.
How do Cadiz get the big revenue? Either outside investment like psg etc or long term European football (nearly impossible and only viable for a couple of clubs in every league).
So the uneven nature will exist so long as:
- Teams play in more than one competition.
- Promotion and relegation exist.
For the old money thing. All profit and the money of capitalists is exploited and the surplus value of labour of the workers. All investors are the same. They can’t have money now if they aren’t exploiting someone now.
But let’s drop this argument, it never goesnto a natural conclusion.
It works in american sports bc there is no promotion or relegation. Can’t work in a sport with it. I know the big bash has no more teams than the few that participate and cricket economic model is even worse.
That’s certainly part of it. It is also relevant that American leagues are a legal cartels that can control player movement subject only to collective bargaining with the players unions, as this removes the unbalancing effect of external compensation. They are also generally the highest level of their sport (though sometimes by default because only Americans care), meaning the threat of losing players to outside entities is minimal, though until they accepted significant revenue sharing (generally runs close to 50% of revenues), the emergence of competitors was always possible.
The weird outlier in the US is MLS, which must compete in the global market. They benefit from (1) having a squishy-AF salary caps, and (2) playing in the middle depths of the global market for professional footballers, meaning that skillful organizations can replace talent more or less like-for-like. As an aside, MLS franchises are much better at doing this than they used to be, and there are as many players passing through on their way up as down.
Yeah I don’t know enough about american sports to talk as in depth as I have about other matters here.
But yes thats the point I was trying to make too. I agree with basically all you said.
Now i know a lil about the mls. And I tried to understand their player registration rules and its all a mind fuck. Absolute mind fuck. So many ridiculous rules that need to be fulfilled making squad building an absolute headache. Still a lotta money in the mls which makes them valuable. And the college system helps too.
But yes thats the point I was trying to make too.
Fair enough. Pro-Rel has certain direct consequences that make a salary cap untenable, but I can see how it’s the whole system of a pyramid that includes pro-rel that you were getting at. I am actually fairly protective of the American system as a completely alternative system of professionalization that emerged fairly organically here and actually has some advantages to go with its disadvantages, but you can’t just pick and choose pieces of them to insert into the other. A salary cap in UEFA is laughable. FFP is already eye-rollingly abused.
Absolute mind fuck.
Yeah, it’s absolutely byzantine. The legal structure of MLS is bizarre as well. Technically, it’s still a single entity, though de factor the “investor operators” now work almost as independently as traditional American franchise owners, but the roster rules absolutely reflect their legal origin as intracompany transfers and “funny money” credits, all filtered through a traditional US-sports collective bargaining agreement, and goosed whenever a sufficiently big star wants to play out a few years here.
And the college system helps too.
The number of players coming up to MLS through college has shrunk quite a bit over the years, and the number of impactful players doing so has cratered in the men’s game. It’s basically now a place to fill out a few spots on the bottom of the roster and the reserve team, and as an occasional pleasant surprise among the late developers whose prop prospects at 18 were bleak enough that a college degree seemed the prudent choice. Once MLS realized they could make player development pay for itself with academies sitting on top of the already lucrative American youth setups college soccer was doomed to be an also-ran. Really only American football and men’s and women’s basketball depend heavily on the College system, where those sports are financially self-sustaining, so in exchange for not getting players brought up in your own style of play, the pro leagues get 100% free player development, including bearing the risk for injuries. Baseball too, though to a lesser extent and “minor league baseball” as a development path for teenaged players from across baseball-playing countries is still perfectly viable. I am less well-versed in Ice Hockey, but it seems like a hybrid system of independent youth clubs, some college, and European clubs.
Who do you want enforcing the rules?
The EPL would enforce it for the EPL. La Liga would enforce it for La Liga, etc.
The unusual stratification of soccer leagues lends itself some difficulty in obtaining consistency, but that is not a good enough reason not to try. Especially for EPL, which really is professional (non-international) soccer for most of the world. People in Vietnam or Namibia know about and often pick a side in the Liverpool–ManU feud. Far fewer could tell you about Bundesliga teams.
Relegation also causes difficulty, but again, shouldn’t be insurmountable. A sort of “grandfather” clause to allow players in teams that get relegated to not have to immediately take a big pay cut (assuming lower leagues would have a lower salary cap), similar to how BBL allows international players exemptions and A-league already allows each team one player who can simply ignore the salary cap entirely.
I’m not pretending it’s simple. Just that the problems a salary cap is designed to fix are huge problems with the integrity of the sport, and the difficulty of implementing it is far outweighed by the benefit that would be obtained.
Currently salary caps are based on percentage of revenue and the way to enforce em varies.
I think its as good as it gets. An objective cap is just a way of making sure players leave your league for another.
For example, in the NRL, since 2004, there have been 11 or 12 winners (depending on whether you count the Eels winning after the Storm were found to have broken the salary cap, and had their Premiership taken from them retroactively). In the AFL it’s 10. BBL has only existed since 2011, and it already surpasses EPL’s 2004 total with 6 unique winners, despite also only having 9 teams compared to EPL’s 20.
Now I’m not an expert in these leagues. But i know a lil about the bbl atleast.
I predict the NRL has no relegation? And teams only play in the NRL? I also guess the worst team has first pick in drafts or whatever?
With the BBL, its ridiculous. One year your best players get called up to national teams and you’re done for. Its a joke the way cricket leagues are run. Similarly no relegation.
BBL has some rules regarding players expected to miss a significant amount of time due to international tours. I don’t know the details of them, and maybe some tweaking of those rules would help. I don’t think it’s an obstacle so terrible the idea of salary caps should be thrown out.
NRL has a similar problem, on a lesser scale. Three weeks every year is State of Origin, where many teams lose their best players to an inter-state competition. And there’s the occasional international test, but that’s much less common (and less commonly during the league season).
NRL does not have a draft in the style of American sports. Instead, players usually graduate up from playing in lesser state and regional leagues through the junior system.
AFL does have a draft, with a bunch of carve-outs like the “father-son” rule, and priority access to local players especially for teams in places where AFL is less popular.
Say youre a bbl team that loses Hazelwood plus head for example. (Dont remember who plays where, just an example)
Who the hell can replace them.
A player from the same category. But your international spots are probably already picked and the other decent local players are gone too. The drop off from your ream would be insane.
Also depends on who becomes available.
Football:
All the players are blindfolded
(I don’t enjoy football, but I’d certainly watch it if it involved people running at each other full speed blindfolded)
I don’t know if you’re talking soccer, Aussie rules, gridiron, rugby (league or union), Gaelic football, or something else. But this is amusing whichever you pick.
Important: unlike variants of sports designed to be accessible to blind and low-vision players, this football is completely regular. Regular size, regular colour, no rattles or anything to make it easier to find the ball.
I saw a YouTube video of a game where they played soccer in 3rd person. Everyone wore VR goggles that gave them a birds eye view of the field and it was very amusing to see.
Probably not to play, though.
I’d remove the size constraint on darts, so you could choose to use a lawn dart on your last turn, for example, to score 6352 points.
All sports: ban gambling sponsorships. Ban teams from wearing gambling company logos or otherwise promoting gambling companies. Ban leagues and networks from incorporating gambling sponsorships into the programming.
I would also say ban gambling advertising entirely, but that’s a government law, not a sports one. With the sports rule change, gambling companies could still buy ad spots during as breaks. Just no commentators going “and now over to Lad Brokes so the punters can know the odds in this game”.
I’d happily go a step further and just ban advertising altogether.
With the sports rule change, gambling companies could still buy ad spots during as breaks.
Sports organizations sign broadcasting contracts for the airtime, they can absolutely require that some ads are not allowed to play during their breaks.
American Football: Every time a player suffers a traumatic brain injury the owner takes a punch to the head from a professional heavyweight boxer.
playoff hockey: have referees on the ice that call penalties for rule infractions. playoffs are violent garbage.
I would implement two salary rules for baseball:
- A hard salary floor and cap. Super cheap teams like the current Rockies that are all but guaranteed to lose is a detriment to the competitiveness of the entire league, as are pay-to-win juggernauts
- No deferred money contracts. They’re bad for competitiveness (see the current Dodgers) and a bummer for fan bases when the time comes to pay out the deferred money and the team can’t afford a viable roster.
Baseball: There is now a gun under second base.