Title. Interested to see the response from different religions

Edit: Stating your religion would be appreciated. Lack of religion counts for the purpose of this question. Also let’s not downvote people for differing religions, all voices are welcome here. If no; why?

  • dingus@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    Anti-religioud atheist here.

    You know what…years ago I would have said “no”. Imo, often fundamentalist religious people have views that actively harm society through systemic actions. So it’s not something I am able to generally sit well with.

    However, years back I met someone irl (not online) with absolutely polar opposite political and religious views as me. I am an atheist who actually opposes the concept of religion in general and I am very liberal. This person I know is very Catholic and conservative. They are a hardcore Trumper and I have always seen him as a dangerous threat to the US.

    Yet…

    Over the years, this person has legitimately become my absolute best friend. They are the kindest, funniest, most wonderful person I know. I absolutely love spending time with them. We just don’t debate our polar opposite viewpoints. We still share and talk about deep, personal things…but we don’t instigate political debates or anything like that. I take their views as someone who has been brainwashed by society, and I’m sure they feel the same about me. But it means that I don’t see them as evil for their views and am able to easily look past that.

    I don’t know what the fuck I would do in life if I ever lost them. Sometimes they are the reason why I look forward to the rest of my day.

    We are not romantically involved or anything. They have a partner and a family, and I wouldn’t be interested with doing that with this person anyway.

    But the point is, it taught me that I can have a very deep, personal connection with someone with polar opposite views. Ideally, I would like for a partner to share my views. But life has shown me that it is possible to be opposite like that and still really deeply care for and enjoy someone.

    • Flickerby@lemm.eeOP
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      6 days ago

      How do you reconcile their views on deportation, human trafficking, LGBT stuff, etc etc etc etc etc with you finding them to be a “wonderful” person? Personally anyone who believes in what Trump is doing is by definition a monster and any niceties they may show other people is either psychopathy or because you happen to be the right color. It’s like the standard bad date test; if they’re a shitheel to their server, they’ll eventually be a shitheel to you too.

  • JASN_DE@feddit.org
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    9 days ago

    No. I couldn’t be with anyone who actually takes religion seriously. It just wouldn’t work.

  • rumschlumpel@feddit.org
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    9 days ago

    I wouldn’t get involved with someone deeply religious. I’d consider someone religious if they were sufficiently wishy-washy about it, though, e.g. people who are christian and believe in it at least enough to not call themselves atheists or agnostics but don’t really DO anything christian.

  • remotelove@lemmy.ca
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    9 days ago

    I am atheist and my wife is Buddhist. While not exactly true, I view Buddhism more as a philosophy and it is more palatable in that regard. My tolerance for people practicing religion is also fairly high as long as they don’t try and “convert me”.

    As a result, I have been to plenty of ceremonies for things over the years and it doesn’t bother me. Of course, I don’t believe in any of that “magic” but there is usually loads of good food that comes attached, depending. (Also, there is a high probability of after-hours gambling and drinking which was cool when I did that stuff, at least with the Asian crowd I roll with.)

    +20 years married into a Buddhist family, if you were wondering about that.

    • njordomir@lemmy.world
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      8 days ago

      I’m a Buddhist/Atheist. There is far less to fight about here than between Christians/Atheist. I’m sure I’m a “bad” Buddhist too because I take the philosophical bits that make sense to me and leave all the deities and supernatural stuff alone, but Buddhists don’t seem to mind and most atheists don’t either.

    • Flickerby@lemm.eeOP
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      9 days ago

      Am also atheist, I have an extreme…distaste for religion in general. There are some that I find easier to mesh with, very dependent on the person in particular. But I have some long married friends with vastly different religious views and they work out somehow.

      • remotelove@lemmy.ca
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        9 days ago

        Oh, I get it. My distaste for religion runs deep as well. However, in my own direct experience, I have not seen any overt religious-driven nasty behavior in my years around Buddhism. (Not to say that it doesn’t exist, but I haven’t seen it.)

        For the record, I grew up in an extreme Southern Baptist area, and still hold the belief that all those fuckers are all pure evil.

        • Flickerby@lemm.eeOP
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          9 days ago

          Buddhism seems like one of the easier ones to mesh with, yeah. Thank you for your response, I appreciate it very much!

    • Pyr@lemmy.ca
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      8 days ago

      Irreligious agnostic as well.

      I think I would have difficulty depending on how devoted they are. Like would I need to pretend to pray beside them at every meal? Or do they just keep most of that to themselves?

      Also, I do find the little rituals and habits that religious people go through a bit silly so I feel like I would not be able to just silently sit by and watch it for years and years.

      • flagrante_delicto@lemm.ee
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        7 days ago

        Honestly it’s a hard question to answer by text. Depends if they expect me to make room for them to practice their faith or expect me to to eventually follow in their spiritual path. Because these 2 are very different. I find the rituals offputting too even though I understand the logic behind them, but that could be because of internalised prejudice from my part. Also assuming this is a serious relationship would this person assume that in case you decide to have kids they will educated/indocrinated since an early age? That would be an absolute no for me. I’m certainly up for presenting them with the option when they come to an appropriate age but not raising them up to the idea that it is the only certainty in life. It’s complicated for sure and there a number of things to take into account but that doesn’t necessarily mean you should avoid being with someone you cherish because they find joy in a way of spirituality I/you may find archaic.

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    8 days ago

    I’m an aethiset, she was christian. I moved on fairly quickly, it’s just looppy shit i would have started to laugh…

    I assumed she’d come to her senses, she assumed I could be indoctrinated.

  • last_philosopher@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    Sure. My parents had different religions and being an atheist I don’t really have a duty to care about other people’s religions.

    Of course it helped that my parents weren’t too seriously religious. And I’ve rejected religious people for having religion-tied views I find appalling. But the religion itself isn’t the issue, just the things that sometimes result from it are.

  • BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    It depends. I’m atheist/agnostic, but I have a lot of respect for certain core religious philosophies. Buddhism, Sikhism, and the teachings of Jesus (note that I did not say “Christianity”) in particular.

    If a persons particular practice has an ethical, humanist core I can accept that. If it encourages any kind of blind appeal or deference to authority, I cannot. I can tolerate some mysticism and mythology, but I cannot tolerate unethical teaching, dogma, or behavior.

  • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
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    8 days ago

    Fuck no. Organized religion is the source of most of the harms in the world. There is no man in the sky. You have no special blessing to be terrible to others.

    Capitalism is responsible for most of the rest of the harms. And then a very small percent is the result of basically-bad people and mental health issues.

  • pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip
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    8 days ago

    My life partner and I both considered it critical that our beliefs were strongly compatible.

    We’ve been together for decades.

    Our beliefs have changed substantially, and certainly not identically.

    We’re still together. There’s so many more important things.