• Cosmic Cleric@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    I highly doubt phones are always listening.

    But, they already are.

    Some people like the option where they just say “Hey Google” (or whatever) and then the phone talks back to them, so they’re always listening so they can hear that initiation sequence.

    Personally I like the ability to turn that feature off, so I have to explicitly enable the microphone to have Google listen to what I’m saying.

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      6 months ago

      Isn’t the activation phrase on a separate piece of hardware that’s not networked?

      NGL I don’t the the guy with the anti ai blurb in all his comments is very knowledgeable about tech lol

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        NGL I don’t the the guy with the anti ai blurb in all his comments is very knowledgeable about tech lol

        You know, if you have to try to “Kill the Messenger” to win a point, then you’re not really winning anything, and you’re just disrespecting another human being.

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      6 months ago

      but they already are

      Not in the context of this post thread.

      “ Always listening ” would suggest they are recording at all times in a way that can be used for advertising.

      It’s already well understood wake words are processed on device.

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        I’ll refer you to the Vice article that has been linked in this conversation above.

        The mic is always hot, and neither you or I know what exactly is being stored locally and then sent in batch later on, or sent in real time. Only Google does.

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          But you see you’re wrong. We know how on device wake words work. I’m sorry, your vice article from 2018 is out of date.

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            You don’t know the difference between someone saying a microphone is always on (hot) for processing a wake word vs saying the microphone is always on (hot) for data collection.

            No, I’m very aware of the distinction, my career was as a computer programmer, and have worked with hardware as well, and I’m very aware of technology, and have an Android certification.

            You were just assuming one thing that I was saying, when I was actually saying a general thing.

            The mic is hot by default. It has to listen for the activation sequence.

            What I’m suggesting is that while that mic is hot it’s also gathering other data and storing it locally, and then it sends it off in a batch with other traffic later on, so it’s not detectable from someone who’s monitoring network traffic from the device.

            Temporally, you’re assuming that all eavesdropping is transmitted in real time, where I am not.

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