• Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world
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      14 days ago

      I would have no problem getting anyone at r/conservative to pull up similar data points and statistics to show immigrants are taking jobs, contributing to crime statistics or any other claim. It’s very eerily similar to the emerging opinion on the left when compared to opinions on the right towards immigrants.

      Regardless of validity of opinion. What I’m noticing is the role the media has played on shaping opinion and fed it.

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        14 days ago

        I would have no problem getting anyone at r/conservative to pull up similar data points and statistics to show immigrants are taking jobs, contributing to crime statistics or any other claim.

        You’ll find conservatives rarely bother trying to do this because it’s simply statistically not true

        • Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world
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          14 days ago

          Absolutely not true. I find more often they use lots of statistics. That’s the whole facts over feelings thing.

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            14 days ago

            I don’t think I’ve heard anyone say that, and actually mean it, for the past 8 years…

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      14 days ago

      I’ve learned of one interesting pathway from ancap to socialism long ago, as you might have guessed, through Georgism, but more generally - every finite resource that can’t be produced, like territory and laws of nature, shouldn’t be owned and should be considered common property shared by communist means. What can be produced is private property without limitations.

      Thus you can own guns, tanks, jets and air carriers, but you shouldn’t be able to fully own territory and patents, because that eventually leads to legally reinforced monopoly.

      I think there’s a logical connection from that to what our future looks like and how it will have to be resolved. Unless we want a caste society.