Yeah, OP keeps using the lack of current investment in renewables as an argument that it can’t be done at scale. It’s a really weird lack of logic whether they’re aware of it and arguing in bad faith or just fundamentally confused…
My argument is that it has taken us 30 years to reach 16% of global power generated by renewables. And every year we seem to add about two more percentage to that. Any and all progress we make towards divesting away from fossil fuels is great, however we don’t have the fucking time scale to keep that slow rate going rate going. We need to drastically cut oil yesterday and the only thing you can use to replace that much oil in a short time span is nuclear. Never once anywhere have I said that I want less renewables. I want more. I also want a safely generated nuclear base load to replace the oil that is 70% of our sum total energy needs. There is zero reason that we can’t invest in both for a more equitable future.
My argument is that it has taken us 30 years to reach 16% of global power generated by renewables.
And every year we seem to add about two more percentage to that.
Mainly because of the fossil fuel and nuclear lobbies bribing politicians, not any deficiency inherent to renewables as you keep implying.
we don’t have the fucking time scale to keep that slow rate going rate going
True, but the solution is to increase the investment in renewable energy generation at a faster rate, not giving up and pivoting to the slower, less effective and more dirty transition to nuclear.
Meanwhile, a major solar array or wind turbine park can be built in a matter of months and doesn’t have those problems OR the waste disposal issues you keep downplaying.
We need to drastically cut oil yesterday
Again, absolutely true.
the only thing you can use to replace that much oil in a short time span is nuclear
Absolutely 100% categorically false.
Never once anywhere have I said that I want less renewables
Except for repeatedly suggesting that nuclear is a much better option, which it isn’t.
There is zero reason that we can’t invest in both for a more equitable future.
Except for the fact that a combination of the myriad types of renewables is a faster, cheaper, and cleaner way to get off fossil fuels.
Nuclear is the coal of low to no carbon energy generation: it’s an obsolete method that is still used in spite of much better modern technology being available, chiefly because of rich lobbyists bribing politicians and gaslighting regular people.
OP calling you a “dipshit” and others “fucking shills” is clear evidence OP knows he/she is losing the argument and gets emotional about it.
What’s funny is that nuclear apologists sweep other renewables like geothermal under the rug and only proclaim that wind and solar depend on the elements. Wind and solar do but others like geothermal don’t. Hydropower is also less dependent on flukes of nature.
Also France needs to lower their nuclear energy output in summer because the cooling water from rivers gets too hot.
Yeah, OP keeps using the lack of current investment in renewables as an argument that it can’t be done at scale. It’s a really weird lack of logic whether they’re aware of it and arguing in bad faith or just fundamentally confused…
That’s not my argument. Dipshit.
My argument is that it has taken us 30 years to reach 16% of global power generated by renewables. And every year we seem to add about two more percentage to that. Any and all progress we make towards divesting away from fossil fuels is great, however we don’t have the fucking time scale to keep that slow rate going rate going. We need to drastically cut oil yesterday and the only thing you can use to replace that much oil in a short time span is nuclear. Never once anywhere have I said that I want less renewables. I want more. I also want a safely generated nuclear base load to replace the oil that is 70% of our sum total energy needs. There is zero reason that we can’t invest in both for a more equitable future.
Mainly because of the fossil fuel and nuclear lobbies bribing politicians, not any deficiency inherent to renewables as you keep implying.
True, but the solution is to increase the investment in renewable energy generation at a faster rate, not giving up and pivoting to the slower, less effective and more dirty transition to nuclear.
Speaking of not having time, nuclear is already getting less effective and less safe due to climate change, a tendency that’s going to get much worth in the several years, probably decades, it would take to transition from fossil fuels to nuclear.
Meanwhile, a major solar array or wind turbine park can be built in a matter of months and doesn’t have those problems OR the waste disposal issues you keep downplaying.
Again, absolutely true.
Absolutely 100% categorically false.
Except for repeatedly suggesting that nuclear is a much better option, which it isn’t.
Except for the fact that a combination of the myriad types of renewables is a faster, cheaper, and cleaner way to get off fossil fuels.
Nuclear is the coal of low to no carbon energy generation: it’s an obsolete method that is still used in spite of much better modern technology being available, chiefly because of rich lobbyists bribing politicians and gaslighting regular people.
OP calling you a “dipshit” and others “fucking shills” is clear evidence OP knows he/she is losing the argument and gets emotional about it.
What’s funny is that nuclear apologists sweep other renewables like geothermal under the rug and only proclaim that wind and solar depend on the elements. Wind and solar do but others like geothermal don’t. Hydropower is also less dependent on flukes of nature.
Also France needs to lower their nuclear energy output in summer because the cooling water from rivers gets too hot.