Hydrogen transport is also a mass of pain in the ass because hydrogen being the noblest of gases and only a single hydrogen molecule likes to seep out of every container we’ve ever made and there’s no way to permanently contain it.
Hydrogen transport is also a mass of pain in the ass because hydrogen being the noblest of gases and only a single hydrogen molecule likes to seep out of every container we’ve ever made and there’s no way to permanently contain it.
This statement you’ve made here is mostly accurate and informative. Hydrogen isn’t a noble gas, its brother Helium is. Hydrogen is highly reactive. However, your points about Hydrogen storage and transport are spot on. You’re not insulting nor condescending in this post. Nearly every other response you’ve made in this whole post is the opposite.
You are clearly capable of civil and informative responses, but because you have so few you’ve lost the audience you want to inform/persuade a long time ago. Are you aware of that?
This is /c/shitpost im not debating civilly as the arguments I get aren’t in good faith 9 times out of 10. I’m not here to be a school teacher. More of a doomsday preacher
Fuck it! Here’s a hypothetical a magic genie. Just granted My wish and gave us enough solar to actually power everything we need. Now one six of every country on Earth is covered in solar panels. Here’s the catch though you need to Learn more about how electrical grids work then come back to me once you realized we would have to rebuild an even bigger worldwide connected grid to make solar and a battery powered society actually functional and that we currently have no way to make battery storage equitable and affordable enough to store the amount of energy we would need to store everyday to power our societies through the night.
You’re still doing it. Your run on paragraphs aren’t worth much, if you want me to take you seriously, please provide links to valid sources to back up your argument.
Solar gets cheaper everyday. Battery storage is not nearly equitable enough at this point in time. Small modular reactors are much more cost effective at the current price point than battery will be for the next 15 to 20 years.
No need to act like a bitch just because I asked you to do the bare minimum and provide sources.
Your first link is about HVDC lines, which already exist and work well, what is your point?
your second link is about battery storage. You’re just posting links without giving any context to how they support whatever argument you’re trying to make here.
Battery storage is not nearly equitable enough at this point in time.
What does this mean?
“findings suggest that the cost per kilowatt (KW) for utility-scale solar is less than $1,000, while the comparable cost per KW for nuclear power is between $6,500 and $12,250. At present estimates, the Vogtle nuclear plant will cost about $10,300 per KW, near the top of Lazard’s range. This means nuclear power is nearly 10 times more expensive to build than utility-scale solar on a cost per KW basis.”
Small modular reactors are much more cost effective at the current price point than battery will be for the next 15 to 20 years.
They literally don’t exist as a means of grid generation. You’re just writing pro-nuclear fanfic and expecting us to treat it as if it has any basis in reality. Are you getting paid to peddle this horseshit?
I’m surprised that solar isn’t yet big enough to be broken out on its own.
and that’s the problem. It’s not even enough of our power generation to be its own separate entity on the graph, but these people expect it to just magically power the planet in the next 5 years.
I’m surprised that solar isn’t yet big enough to be broken out on its own.
I’m also surprised that natural gas is outgrowing everything else.
Natural gas is just Methabe and is being pushed by big oil, since it needs all of the infrastructure they already have.
We only recently developed the technology to make it more feasible. They used to just light it off and burn it at the wells when they would tap it.
Anything to back that up?
It’s a logistical problem https://youtu.be/7OpM_zKGE4o?si=2_TW0JeYeA2htQm1
We could use solar (or other renewables/nuclear) to power hydrogen fuel cells, then take the energy where it’s needed.
Hydrogen transport is also a mass of pain in the ass because hydrogen being the noblest of gases and only a single hydrogen molecule likes to seep out of every container we’ve ever made and there’s no way to permanently contain it.
Yeah agreed, but still it seems better than what we’re doing now.
Most hydrogen tech is going to be generated from fossil fuels…
Greenwashing
https://www.irena.org/Energy-Transition/Technology/Hydrogen#:~:text=As at the end of,around 4%25 comes from electrolysis.
Seems like a big assumption. It could be generated in a remote area by a nuclear reactor or a renewable source.
This statement you’ve made here is mostly accurate and informative. Hydrogen isn’t a noble gas, its brother Helium is. Hydrogen is highly reactive. However, your points about Hydrogen storage and transport are spot on. You’re not insulting nor condescending in this post. Nearly every other response you’ve made in this whole post is the opposite.
You are clearly capable of civil and informative responses, but because you have so few you’ve lost the audience you want to inform/persuade a long time ago. Are you aware of that?
This is /c/shitpost im not debating civilly as the arguments I get aren’t in good faith 9 times out of 10. I’m not here to be a school teacher. More of a doomsday preacher
I asked you if you had anything to back that up. The answer is no.
Fuck it! Here’s a hypothetical a magic genie. Just granted My wish and gave us enough solar to actually power everything we need. Now one six of every country on Earth is covered in solar panels. Here’s the catch though you need to Learn more about how electrical grids work then come back to me once you realized we would have to rebuild an even bigger worldwide connected grid to make solar and a battery powered society actually functional and that we currently have no way to make battery storage equitable and affordable enough to store the amount of energy we would need to store everyday to power our societies through the night.
You’re still doing it. Your run on paragraphs aren’t worth much, if you want me to take you seriously, please provide links to valid sources to back up your argument.
Here comes the airplane say aaah
https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=36393#:~:text=The per-mile cost of,proposals and relevant regulatory filings
https://howtostoreelectricity.com/costs-of-1-mw-battery/#:~:text=Given the range of factors,on the factors mentioned above.
Solar gets cheaper everyday. Battery storage is not nearly equitable enough at this point in time. Small modular reactors are much more cost effective at the current price point than battery will be for the next 15 to 20 years.
No need to act like a bitch just because I asked you to do the bare minimum and provide sources.
Your first link is about HVDC lines, which already exist and work well, what is your point?
your second link is about battery storage. You’re just posting links without giving any context to how they support whatever argument you’re trying to make here.
What does this mean?
“findings suggest that the cost per kilowatt (KW) for utility-scale solar is less than $1,000, while the comparable cost per KW for nuclear power is between $6,500 and $12,250. At present estimates, the Vogtle nuclear plant will cost about $10,300 per KW, near the top of Lazard’s range. This means nuclear power is nearly 10 times more expensive to build than utility-scale solar on a cost per KW basis.”
https://www.energysage.com/about-clean-energy/nuclear-energy/solar-vs-nuclear/
Tell me again about what’s equitable.
They literally don’t exist as a means of grid generation. You’re just writing pro-nuclear fanfic and expecting us to treat it as if it has any basis in reality. Are you getting paid to peddle this horseshit?
You should be.
and that’s the problem. It’s not even enough of our power generation to be its own separate entity on the graph, but these people expect it to just magically power the planet in the next 5 years.