• CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world
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    Batteries are still better because they can be recharged without oil or extra pollution.

    You cant recharge an ICE engine without more pollution and oil

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      6 months ago

      Where does your power come from? You don’t just plug into the wall and get magic clean energy. You are just shifting the shit elsewhere.

      It’s a lie told to sell you a good and you are eating it up.

      Less than 8% of energy consumption in the US comes from renewable energy. Another 8% come from nuclear.

      That’s petrol / natural gas / coal powering your home, factories, shops, and restaurant. Natural gas is not green, it’s greenwashed.

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        My power comes from the two sets of solar panels and batteries on my land. It is possible to do without fossil fuels. We’re not there yet for everyone, but the problems you point out are solvable, and if solar/EVs had the same amount of backing from the government over the same timeframe that gas/ICE cars have had, we would be in a very different place right now.

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        Where does your power come from?

        Right now? Primarily hydro with a strong solar and wind showing. Roughly 10% of my power is from Fossil fuels.

        You are just shifting the shit elsewhere

        Even with a pure fossil fuel grid, EVs still end up producing less CO2 than ICE vehicles. However, grids aren’t pure fossil fuels which means EVs are far cleaner than Fossil fuel vehicles. Especially in my current circumstance.

        Less than 8% of energy consumption in the US comes from renewable energy. Another 8% come from nuclear.

        13% while being one of the fastest growing energy production sectors.

        https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/us-energy-facts/

        That’s petrol / natural gas / coal powering your home, factories, shops, and restaurant

        Not mine because I live in the Pacific North West which is the greenest grid in the US.

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          I’m just saying right now more than 80% of all energy in the use comes from non renewable / non nuclear power. I’m glad your area has great renewable energy sources in place.

          I’m powered by Sharon Harris nuclear plant.

          I’m not saying that EVs aren’t better, I’m saying that it’s not a magic bandaid. Obviously there is not one fix or easy fix.

          I don’t need to get into my corpo hate right now because I’m tired and I just wanna mine space rocks.