What I’d like to know is how normal is it for such a letter to be written?
I don’t like Josh Hawley and I agree with Newsom that Trump made things worse.
However, these specific protests are violent; I can’t look at a picture of a flaming police or Waymo car and say that’s not violent. So if organizations are genuinely related to that activity … is that something that they’d normally be immune to? Is there precedent?
Like, flipping the script, if the Proud Boys collected money and then showed up in a town and trashed the place, would Proud Boys leadership be held accountable (under normal circumstances)? That’s kind of what happened with Jan 6th until Trump pardoned them (which I also don’t agree with).
Every fucking post has at least one of these faux-incredulous replies now… This shit is so disingenuous.
Fuck off with the concern trolling.
They act like they’re “just asking questions,” yet they end up arguing with anyone who actually answers them, with obviously no interest in finding the truth.
I’ve seen exactly 1 Waymo car from several different angles on fire from several prominent news sites, and I’ve also seen the videos of how that 1 car got set on fire (it wasn’t the protesters; it was the pigs’ flashbangs).
All the violence has been completely 1 sided and it’s not the protesters who are being violent.
I have read the accounts that it’s only immediately around a particular building that things are a mess, it’s not some wide spread apocalypse and I get that … but there’s definitely a certain level of violence and destruction.
Even if there was a certain level of violence occurring and it was not caused by the completely disproportional response of the LAPD, would that make the protest invalid? Because that’s what they are trying to make you think. That want it to be impossible to protest, which we are supposed to have a right to do in this country.
It doesn’t matter. That’s not what I brought this up to talk about. Honestly this whole sub thread is just derailing.
Screw the media, how normal is this? Has this happened before? Does anyone know?
Like yeah, Hawley sucks but are we being hypocritical or is this genuinely like an “OMG this is bad and something that is really really out of the ordinary behavior.” It’s honestly hard to tell with this stuff because EVERYTHING is the end of the world.
I care much less about the protest or the particular organization and a lot more about the novelty of a United States senator pressuring an organization of any kind as retaliation for its “vague support.”
And that “certain level” is very low. The media narrative is trying to make it seem much higher than it is. They largely omit the speeches, the chanting, the dancing, and the standing around. They minimize the extraordinarily violent response.
You’re completely missing my point regardless and making it something that it isn’t.
I couldn’t possibly care less about “the media.”
How far are we from normal? What’s the precedent for this?
That stuff matters. But according to some random other person in this thread “I’m an idiot for asking because I’m brainwashed by the media.”
NO. I want to know HOW NORMAL IS THIS and instead we’re having this other honestly very annoying conversation debating whether or not any violence occurred or if it was “enough” violence or the “right kind” of violence.
So yeah, thank you very not much for derailing my question.
What I’d like to know is how normal is it for such a letter to be written?
I don’t like Josh Hawley and I agree with Newsom that Trump made things worse.
However, these specific protests are violent; I can’t look at a picture of a flaming police or Waymo car and say that’s not violent. So if organizations are genuinely related to that activity … is that something that they’d normally be immune to? Is there precedent?
Like, flipping the script, if the Proud Boys collected money and then showed up in a town and trashed the place, would Proud Boys leadership be held accountable (under normal circumstances)? That’s kind of what happened with Jan 6th until Trump pardoned them (which I also don’t agree with).
Every fucking post has at least one of these faux-incredulous replies now… This shit is so disingenuous.
Fuck off with the concern trolling.
They act like they’re “just asking questions,” yet they end up arguing with anyone who actually answers them, with obviously no interest in finding the truth.
I’ve seen exactly 1 Waymo car from several different angles on fire from several prominent news sites, and I’ve also seen the videos of how that 1 car got set on fire (it wasn’t the protesters; it was the pigs’ flashbangs).
All the violence has been completely 1 sided and it’s not the protesters who are being violent.
Another idiot that doesn’t bother to research what is actually going on and relying on their goon media to fill them in.
Don’t you get it, they’re “just asking questions”?
Please ignore the fact that they have doubled and tripled down by arguing with everyone that actually answered them.
You’ve been led to believe this by a media narrative. The protests are not violent. The policing is violent, but the protests are not.
I mean I don’t think it’s fair to call this a “media narrative” … https://youtu.be/WW2JLfUwTjI
I have read the accounts that it’s only immediately around a particular building that things are a mess, it’s not some wide spread apocalypse and I get that … but there’s definitely a certain level of violence and destruction.
Even if there was a certain level of violence occurring and it was not caused by the completely disproportional response of the LAPD, would that make the protest invalid? Because that’s what they are trying to make you think. That want it to be impossible to protest, which we are supposed to have a right to do in this country.
It doesn’t matter. That’s not what I brought this up to talk about. Honestly this whole sub thread is just derailing.
Screw the media, how normal is this? Has this happened before? Does anyone know?
Like yeah, Hawley sucks but are we being hypocritical or is this genuinely like an “OMG this is bad and something that is really really out of the ordinary behavior.” It’s honestly hard to tell with this stuff because EVERYTHING is the end of the world.
I care much less about the protest or the particular organization and a lot more about the novelty of a United States senator pressuring an organization of any kind as retaliation for its “vague support.”
This isn’t happening in a vacuum.
It does matter. It’s the only thing that matters. The entire point is demonizing protests so they can sick their jackbooted thugs on them.
And that “certain level” is very low. The media narrative is trying to make it seem much higher than it is. They largely omit the speeches, the chanting, the dancing, and the standing around. They minimize the extraordinarily violent response.
You’re completely missing my point regardless and making it something that it isn’t.
I couldn’t possibly care less about “the media.”
How far are we from normal? What’s the precedent for this?
That stuff matters. But according to some random other person in this thread “I’m an idiot for asking because I’m brainwashed by the media.”
NO. I want to know HOW NORMAL IS THIS and instead we’re having this other honestly very annoying conversation debating whether or not any violence occurred or if it was “enough” violence or the “right kind” of violence.
So yeah, thank you very not much for derailing my question.