• JaggedRobotPubes@lemmy.world
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    22 hours ago

    Trump left his tinydick phylactery in Los Angeles and sent the people who would have been correctly convicted at the Nuremberg Trials to try to find it, but he has to keep sending more because it is so small.

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    I keep seeing people talking about the Marines and the National Guard being deployed, and this is certainly egregious and the blame for it rests squarely on Trump’s head… But I have not seen many people mention that the LAPD are not being deployed by Trump. They are being deployed by Californian Politicians, and from the livestreams and videos I’ve seen, the police are the ones shooting LTL rounds and flahsbangs at civilians and reporters. Let’s not lose sight of the fact that the police response has been unacceptably violent, national guard or not. It is the violence from the police that has historically, and will in this instance as well escalate the situation.

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      I think LAPD are essentially their own political institution, barely accountable to civilian or elected leadership

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    Traitor president.

    The sooner Americans learn to accept this is the historical event currently unfolding, the sooner we can take care of him and his enablers.

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    They should refuse the orders and arrest Trump and everyone else involved in this shit. Which includes a lot of the administration.

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      Not American and maybe I’m just OOTL but this confuses me as well… I’m aware of a peaceful protest against the mass deportations, but what else? Why do they need armed soldiers??

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          It’s the next step in his takeover. He already controls the government. He controls business through tariffs. Now he needs to control the people.

          Once he’s got control internally, he’ll turn his eyes to other countries. What we’ve seen so far with his threats will become reality as he annexes Canada, Mexico, and Greenland to secure natural resources and wages a full economic war on anyone else who challenges him (China, EU)

          It’s pretty textbook rise of Nazi Germany 1930s. None of this should be surprising.

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            Yeh as a Canadian I’m pretty sure we’re next after he crushes the democratic states. Can’t build an empire without conqueting your neighbours.

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    Not American so could be wrong, but there’s a law that they can’t do police services unless activated by the state not the president so that will be interesting

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    I don’t understand why these protests so often end up with people destroying cars and shop windows - and then, in many cases, looting as well. Whatever legitimate cause you may have had loses credibility pretty quickly after that, and it becomes hard to sympathize with the protesters, let alone criticize the riot police for stepping in. A cynic might say that some are just looking for an excuse to cause havoc.

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      Not all the protestors are involved in criminal activity. The news is constantly reporting that 95% of the crowd is peacefully exercising their right to protest, but a small minority of people use the situation to their advantage and cause chaos. The media then reports on these (accurate) instances of violence and then right wing talking heads run away with that and paint the picture that everyone is looting and rioting and attacking cops.

      It’s also a known tactic to have provocateurs incite a riot so that the people in power can use it as an excuse to crack down on an otherwise legitimate protest.

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      Because people don’t suddenly develop a hivemind when engaging in a protest. You get a large group of people together and the likelihood that at least one of them is a shithead quickly hits 100%. Add in agent provocateurs and you get situations like this.

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        A large group of people trying to have a peaceful protest could easily stop a few individuals who start smashing things. But from the looks of it, the reaction often seems to be the opposite - people applaud it or even join in. Even here in the replies, there’s someone excusing it with “who cares about Google,” and another one justifying the looting of ampm so apparently, in their mind, it’s not a problem. The fact that this exact same tactic is used by the aforementioned agent provocateurs should only further encourage self-policing within these protests.

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          Have you seen what happens when people try to stop agent provocateurs? The police rush in and beat the shit out of them. The entire point of provocateurs is to manufacture an excuse to use violence.

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            No, I haven’t seen that, but I’m sure you can provide an example.

            The point of agent provocateurs - at least as I understand it - is to make a peaceful protest no longer peaceful, giving the authorities an excuse to shut it down. But even if the people committing vandalism really are provocateurs, they still can’t accomplish their goal alone. They need real protesters to go along with it. Plenty of people are willing to riot, but they don’t want to be the first. However, once someone else takes that step, they’ll happily join in.

            If the general sentiment among the protesters was that this kind of behavior won’t be tolerated, these tactics wouldn’t work. A regular police officer can’t tell a protester from an agent provocateur - so if someone starts throwing bricks and immediately gets shunned and handed over to the cops, they’ll be taken away, and the protest stays peaceful.

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      It’s a case of a few opportunists ruining it for the many. As with football celebrations, street parties, or anything. It’s a damn shame that their greed ruins the legitimacy of protesting though

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      I mean, many don’t. I’m not even sure there was any mention of property damage except to police/Ice vehicles/equipment prior to the police escalation.

      However now they they’ve escalated and brought in the national guard, started shooting and tear gassing people, and more it seems things have escalated.

      The real question is - “if these communities are protecting these people so fiercely, where is the mandate to deport them with such force?”

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      Waymo is owned by Google. Who cares?

      Looting small businesses will always be fucked. Haven’t seen that yet with these protests.

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          Probably because those people don’t realize those cars are autonomous and owned by one of the biggest corporations on Earth. I’ve had people swear up and down to me online that autonomous cars don’t exist. Meanwhile I see them drive around on the daily.

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        I have seen people looting an AM/PM in one of the live feeds of what’s going on. But it didn’t look like they were actual protestors, either. Just people taking advantage of the situation. Plus it’s AM/PM; you know how much good stuff they have? Too much! They’re just helping them get down to a reasonable amount of good stuff.

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    This makes sense because establishing a beachhead on Iwo Jima and managing a rowdy crowd are similar skills

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    The Silver Lining: Media coverage of the extensive protests in every city in America has been so light, that some people are asking why nobody is doing anything. Meanwhile Millions of people are protesting across America. Some protests have been higher than 5 million nationally, and they are growing. At 12 million, we reach 3.5%, which experts say is the threshold for a “tipping point,” which leads to trends like revolutions.

    But since the media isn’t covering it, most people have no idea how much is happening. That is, until HitlerPig and The MAGA Morons hit the stage and start puking all over everybody. THAT makes the news, and now EVERYBODY knows about the protests.

    Somebody should explain the Streisand Effect to these jokers.

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        Two books:

        Mark Penn’s Microtrends: The Small Forces Behind Tomorrow’s Big Changes

        Malcolm Gladwell’s Tipping Point: How Little Things Can Make a Big Difference

        I especially like Gladwell’s book, and his other books as well. Blink is another favorite of mine. I haven’t read Penn’s book in a long time, it may be getting a little dated.

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          I read Gladwell already, which has its issues but taking at face value with a pinch of salt is good. I’ll check out the other one, thanks!

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    Every military and law enforcement member needs to understand right now that attacking protesters for exercising their First Amendment rights is crossing a line that they can never come back from. I, for one, will always hold it against any MAGA for the rest of my life. They deserve to be mercilessly shunned, ridiculed, and discriminated against for the rest of their miserable, stupid, treasonous lives. I own a business, and I will never hire a MAGA supporter, ever.

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      I’ll add to this do not go on vacation to any red state. Do not buy goods from red states whenever possible