If a topic keeps coming up no matter how much you try to censor it, consider that it’s not going away. Some changes are long overdue.
If a topic keeps coming up no matter how much you try to censor it, consider that it’s not going away. Some changes are long overdue.
What leaves a bad taste for the vegan community is when a vegan tries to coddle carnists because they’re afraid of not fitting in. Animal abuse is shameful, and people should be confronted and shamed for their abuses.
I get what you’re saying, but the reality is if you are trying to do good, it doesn’t matter how “right” you are if you are a dick about it.
Take Doctor Ignaz Semmelweis, for example. He worked hard and found a way to dramatically reduce deaths of women in childbirth (and tons of others besides) by washing hands after autopsies. Instead of trying to convince other doctors and influence the medical culture, he confronted and shamed other doctors, even to the point the doctors who he had gotten to start washing their hands stopped. Could he have caught more flies with honey than vinegar? Probably. But he was right, so what did it matter the method he used?
What mattered is hand-washing didn’t get adopted. But I’m sure being right offered him some comfort when he was dying of sepsis in a mental asylum. Not to mention the women who died of infection.
The point is, do you want to Be Right, or do you want to do good? Because all this makes it sound like you want to Be Right.
So you’re saying carnists are the baby killers in this metaphor? Yeah, I’m not sure you’re making a good point about catching flies with honey while saying the flies/baby killers have their heads so far up their asses and are so stupid that they have to be tricked into doing the right thing.
Well that answers that, doesn’t it.
Then there’s your answer. Your memes get deleted and your comments get down voted because you aren’t trying to do any good, you’re just trying to flaunt how Right and morally superior you are.
Huh? They’re not my memes. I’m not OP. I just think your metaphor is contrary to your point.
Oops, missed the name, my fault. It sounded like MilitantVegan responding, so I didn’t check.
But if you think it’s contrary to my point, you’re missing my point. The point is, it doesn’t matter how right you are if you end up making no change because you’re an asshole about it.
To be clear, yes, in this situation history may look back on meat eaters as we do the doctors that wouldn’t wash their hands. That’s perfectly possible. But MilitantVegan (and every other vegan that tries to confront and shame people into being vegan) is not helping the situation, they’re just patting themselves on the back for being right. That doctor didn’t do much to save lives, either, regardless how right he was about it.
Dude, take your own advice. Be less of a dick. Don’t imply I’m an asshole.
What an apt comparison