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- privacyguides@lemmy.one
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- privacyguides@lemmy.one
Since a few folks seem unaware of this, I’m posting anew for visibility.
Fuck. Using nova kept me sane. Even though they say, nothing changes…it will. With an analytics company, if they spend that much on nova, they are either going to go behind a paywall, or start data mining the shit from every user.
Remember, if the product is free, then you’re the product
If a product is not free but is a digital service with a paid subscription you are also the product. They ain’t gonna stop data mining you b/c you give them 10 bucks a month.
Yeah, but I paid for Nova Prime back then.
Now they have your money AND will track you.
I’ve been using KISS for I don’t know how many years at this point. I can’t imagine using anything else at this point. I’m sure that there’s plenty of other great FOSS launchers out there!
When that first happened I switched to KISS Launcher. Fully search based. really simple and really fast.
Had an old, barely living phone. Tried very hard to die on sole fact it had to display icons. KISS actually made it usable once again. ^^
I always assumed the stock launcher was always running under custom launchers. Is this the case?
Hi, I’ve installed KISS after reading this comment and there’s one thing I don’t understand. Is one supposed to manually select their ‘Favourites’ or are they populated by KISS with use? I couldn’t find an answer to this anywhere else.
You pick them yourself. Search for an app, long press and then add to favorites
I switched to Kvaesitso (https://github.com/MM2-0/Kvaesitso) and Lawnchair (https://lawnchair.app/downloads/).
Not quite the same customization, but worth it. Kvaesitso is my primary and I love it.
Neo Launcher seems to have either tabs or folders, not both (you have to choose one). Seems fairly close to what I want overall, still missing a few features
Kvaesito with its tags is really interesting but that’s not how I use launchers. If it had also supported modifying the default app list with tags as alternative views then it would’ve been great for me. And it would also need better tools for managing tags (bulk adding apps, navigating tags)
Lawnchair doesn’t let me customize folders within the app list
Awesome… I just installed kvaesitso after (…about 10?) years of being a paid Nova Premium user. I uninstalled Nova and so far so good. Thanks!
To keep it updated I recommend Obtainium ( https://github.com/ImranR98/Obtainium) if you don’t want to use fdroid.
Thanks! I grabbed it on fdroid, which gets updates, right? It looked like the most recent was 2 months ago, when I installed it.
I see fdroid update (1.1.4) from 4 days ago and github (1.1.6) yesterday.
I second Kvaesitso, never used another launcher again
It is unfortunate and I was looking at dozens of other open source launchers, but I was not able to find one that fits my needs and is as customizable as Nova Launcher :(
Neo Launcher is close but not yet all the way there
Lanwchair is a great replacement but I am facing many problems with its widgets. But don’t forget the default launcher always is the best option if you consider less surface attack
Saved for the launcher recommendations, although all of my experiences with them have been bad because of the broken animations since A12 I think… Some look slightly better, like kvaesitso.
Reading the article and justification given I do actually get the idea of it. They want to levarage the parent company’s clout and connections in order to convince other app makers into implementing a way for Sesame, the universal search app/plugin, to pull results directly from those apps. For the parent company it would give them a USP in the analytics market.
In short: Think of searching for a product from the launcher and rather than it opening Google, it returns results directly from the Amazon app, or eBay, or any other app that supports the functionality. Obviously there’ll be an affiliate kickback for any click-through and you’ve got a decent revenue source.
It’s a good idea, I get it. Would I feel comfortable using it? I don’t know. On the one hand it just cuts out the middle-man of searching for and clicking through to products via Google etc. On the other hand, all of the concerns already raised in this thread!
They discuss the acquisition and analytics concerns here: https://novalauncher.com/branch
Oh this is almost 2 years old then … yeah honestly, I’m not that worried at this point.
I didn’t even bother to install 3rd party launcher on my current device. I had been using Nova ever since I got my first android device.
I used to be super excited about new device releases but I’ve lost nearly all my interest in smartphone technology. LG V10/V20 was peak smartphone in my opinion and they’ve been just gotting more and more boring since. My current one most resembles that of some old granny except for the lack of bloatware. I could barely be bothered to look for a new wallpaper.
Back on the old iPhones (like iPhone 4)I used to create animated lock screens for jailbroken devices. I haven’t been able to do that in a long time on either Android or iPhone.
https://www.ios-repo-updates.com/repository/modmyi-com/package/com.modmyi.peterpanls/ https://www.ios-repo-updates.com/repository/modmyi-com/package/com.modmyi.snowfall/ https://www.reddit.com/r/iOSthemes/comments/1fiwn8/my_favourite_ls_gallifreyan_circles_has_been/
Everything is so sanitized and locked down now. Once they took that from me and I couldn’t have all my custom themes, I stopped caring about smartphones. I just want shit that works with the minimal leaked data now.
oh crap
Well this fuckin sucks! I guess I’m switching back to the lame default launcher.
Thank you for this heads up
Anyone here not using an open source launcher after this announcement is seriously learning nothing from this. You are just trusting the next company that either already or eventually will go the same way. Like the dude mentioning Microsoft launcher as alternative, that one has branch analytics baked in as well as far as I remember.
Be aware that using open source doesn’t protect you completely from this, look at what happened to Simple Mobile tools, best install your open source applications from f-droid.
Do you have any good open source alternatives for Nova Launcher?
Of course, but when something like that happens to a popular app there will be an outcry. If you are not a tech person you might miss that, but I’d argue if you care about what launcher your phone has and you care about this issue to go foss you are probably the type of person who’d hear about it.
I use KISS launcher but there are many other options mentioned here that are also good. Yes, nothing is exactly like Nova. But lots of other stuff is good too.
Yes, nothing is exactly like Nova. But lots of other stuff is good too.
Then they aren’t good alternatives, they’re passable.
Seems crazy to me that the software that’s owned by an analytics company is also the one focused on giving the user the most customization options. None of the FOSS alternatives have the same mentality as Nova. They’re all focused more on minimalism, or evoking Pixel, or pushing a specific niche type of interface of their own design. None of them provide anywhere near as many tools to the user.
If I have to use a closed source app provided by an analytics company just to get a launcher that actually empowers the user, so be it. Maybe more of the FOSS alternatives could start taking note of why Nova is the most popular.
What happened to simple tools? And I downloaded them from F-Droid
They got sold (sorry for reddit link) https://www.reddit.com/r/SimpleMobileTools/comments/187w64x/simple_mobile_tools_bought_by_zipoapps/
Use the fossify forks now (also on f-droid)
Please dont tell me I have to leave Niagara. :(
I backed up the APK of the last “clean” version before the sale. I’m going to keep using until some OS update breaks it.
You don’t have to do it! :)
One of the original maintainers of Simple Mobile Tools forked the project and he’s adding new features and fixing bugs.
The project is called Fossify and you can already download the apps from both Play store and F-Droid
@Scrollone @slimarev92 The “Launcher” repository/project/portion/etc has no releases and no packages on its page, so how do i actually download it and try it?
i don’t see any kind of .apk or instructions on where one is.
I think they’re talking about Nova.
Same. I am surprised I’ve been able to use it for so long without any issues.
Well this sucks because I love Nova :(
Notre: the change of ownership happened 2yrs ago