• TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee
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      5 months ago

      Zionism is about Jews having land.

      Again, highly reductive. This is minimalizing the hundreds of years of pogroms across Europe and Asia the Jews endured, resulting in the inception of Zionism in the 1800s.

      I wonder, who wanted to give Jews Madagascar? 😲

      Did you not read? I told you it was one of the Nazi schemes to answer “the Jewish problem” while stealing their wealth to redistribute among party members.

      I’m not saying you can’t correctly compare aspects of Zionism to Nazi Fascism. I’m saying that you can’t equate the two to be the same thing.

      Zionism’s popularity among Jewish communities in Europe didn’t become popular until the rise of Nazism in Germany. It didn’t become popular in Asia until the Soviets began forced deportations after the doctor’s plot.

      Ignoring the actual historical context, just logically it’s full of internal contradictions. If Zionism predates Nazism by a hundred years, wouldn’t they be the ones who invented fascism?

      You are accidentally supporting actual Nazi propaganda about the Zionist intentions for turning Germany into their new homeland.

      Again, I’m not saying that I support Zionism, I don’t even support fucking borders. It’s just that if we continue utilizing Nazism for every argument, it loses it inherent meaning, thus giving cover to actual practicing Nazis.

      I do however think it’s important to discus how fascist governments create fascist governments. It’s actually something Hitler and mousseline talked about, that to fight against fascism a governments only response is to become more militaristic, and thus more fascist.

      • humbletightband@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        5 months ago

        I guess I made a mistake here. I’ve tried to provoke a guy who claimed that Zionism and Nazism are incompatible. Probably I’ve made this guy up myself.

        Borders were a mistake for humanity