Since you brought it up, I finally upgraded to windows 11 and hated it so I switched to Pop! linux since it’s good for gaming. So far so good, Proton needs some tweaking on occasion but it’s easy to do. Hell Rimworld and Planet Crafter run even better. I haven’t tried anything else out yet.
Dude, Proton is so good for 2d gaming. I have, I think, 3X the number of Stardew Valley mods installed than when I had it on Win10. It’s at the point where I am deciding on whether to downgrade my Windows SSD and just use it for firmware updates (though I might experiment with running the DualSense tool in wine, instead).
Pop-Os gang!
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Your encounters with dildos is much different than mine
“voodoo dick my ass!” Comes to mind
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Reminding that “…there are currently no major left-wing political parties in the country.” you Americans have far right or right wing parties, haha losers
Didn’t realize this was strictly about the US. Also left and right are relative directions. Something being left of something else. You can endlessly compare apples and oranges if you want, but I don’t see the point.
Preach, my friend. It is actually the main reason I’m considering deleting my profile because part of the reason I left mainstream social media was to get away from politics and ideological lunatics, but this platform is fucking full of both. Even after filtering out as much of it as possible. Its like a cancer, spreading to every forum page on here.
Is there anywhere on the internet where people are just focusing on hobbies and interests that aren’t mired in hatred and aggression?
Yes, in subforums of classic style internet forums. For example, the “DIY & Hobbies” or “Creativity & Art” subforums of Knockout
I’ll try and check it out when I have the time to dive in. I’m honestly leaning more and one toward just cutting the chord and not using the internet for anything other than work related stuff and watching youtube on the DuckDuckGo player. The current state of the internet is for bots and hysterical political people and I’m honestly over it at this point. Even on this knockout place from the brief glance I had, it also looked like a very political place so eh.
not trying to intrude or provide any valid critique or communicable perspective necessarily, but I was wondering what the concept of “Political” means, in terms you could best use to describe the feeling/notion to someone? I can think of a couple criteria in mind that I would associate as making a topic that was not otherwise related directly to activities of some level of some government somewhere, suddenly seem “Political” from my perspective. I am curious mostly just what criteria you might use to filter topics or general ideas?
if I sound like a bot it’s because spectrum disorder not autofill so read carefully for L’s sake
Anything that fits into ideological screeching.
There are plenty of topics out there that are political in nature that I do not mind, but I do mind the combative, aggressive, reductive and unintelligent discourse that has become the norm online. To me it is not actual discussion nor is it people wishing for a better world. It is just angry people screeching into the void and attacking anyone who disagrees with them and calling them whatever slur they can come up with.
I find it childish, unproductive and stupid and I don’t want to see or hear it. If I wanted to rot my brain I could just drill a hole in my skull and pour some feces in there. It’s the same effect that political screeching has.
Actions have always “spoken” louder than the thought we have, especially the thoughts which some people may choose to put into words in various contexts. few creatures in existence are brave enough for actual honest self reflection beyond some personal threshold of comfort which they have established for themselves, and wish to venture no further beyond. I think people who don’t recognize any of what I am talking about above, or who may be narcissistically excluding themselves from consideration while agreeing with the sentiment, are some of the people who end up screeching as you have described, over topics that they have yet to delve deeply into, as they fear being perceived as amateur or even novice, while never even fully recognizing that the Dunning-Kruger effect simply must apply to themselves as well, to some degree, in any area of study that they are actively pursuing with passion.
Whatever their reasons for screeching, it’s not something I care to be around.
We have all screeched at some point, especially online. I’m not innocent either, I have just grown out of it and seek to engage with people in more productive ways.
It is one of the reasons I came here in the first place because silly me believed this place would be full of rational and mature people and they are certainly here too, but holy shit have I been overall disappointed in the tone on this platform. To me it is no different than Meta, Twitter and Reddit and maybe I was a fool for believing there would be a platform online where people act normal and are able to have a discussion without becoming hysterical and flinging insults as the first measure of rebuttal.
Sure, some detox can be good. Take off when you need.
Yes, Knockout has places for politics but they’re pretty good in keeping it in their place. I find it rather easy to dodge it. The discussions there seem rather peaceful. I like to go there when I have enough of the usual hostility and argument-winning mindsets you’d find on the “regular” internet like Reddit, Youtube, sometimes even Lemmy etc.
For what it’s worth, I am very appreciative of you making me aware of Knockout as an alternative. 🤗
Awwwww, does the privileged baby not like seeing that the world sucks?
Too fucking bad, whiner
The world does not suck, you are just a negative nancy
You can just browse your subs, you don’t have to browse All.
Technology and memes also frequently lead to political topics.
I mean, don’t you think it’s at least in part bc politics have invaded just about every aspect of science and tech?
Like I work in research, and it’s like over the last 5 months everything has changed. And it’s still constantly changing.
I wish it didn’t have to be so political, but a lot of people feel like it’s not so much a choice of choosing to talk about politics. How do you talk about science/tech/healthcare without mentioning very abrupt and invasive policies? Often, I learn about things that will have an impact on my job here before I hear anything from my employer. It’s kind of insane.
We aren’t all Americans
Outside of Lemmy and other social media there is no desire to create a connection to politics at every opportunity. The propaganda machine is real
I mean, literally it feels like it’s overtaken my entire life, not just online. Everything.
I was kind of into politics before, but never to this extent, even during Trump’s first term bc it’s just fucked up everything for me.
My job, my plans for the future, my child’s future, my family that are retired and dependent on social security and Mediciad, my friends that have had health issues.
It’s not propaganda. It’s literally just fucked me over, and ignoring it would just be like closing my eyes, sticking my fingers in my ears and pretending reality isn’t real.
If that’s not the case for you, I understand and kind of envy you, but I promise its the reality for a lot of people right now
You literally just brought politics into a discussion about not bringing up politics.
Originally the discussion was about politics always being brought up on lemmy for all topics even when it’s not relevant to the topic. I said that it’s not necessarily that people want to bring it up, but it’s hard to talk about most things without bringing it up bc it’s become so invasive in so many things.
Maybe I misunderstood you, but it seemed like you were arguing it’s not actually invasive it’s just propaganda making it seem invasive, no?
So I was explaining how it actually has been very invasive for me in response to the statement about it being propaganda.
Outside of Lemmy and other social media there is no desire to create a connection to politics at every opportunity.
So … Off internet?
So there are sites other than social media on the internet…
… I don’t follow?
Even after filtering out as much of it as possible. Its like a cancer, spreading to every forum page on here.
That also goes for the forums I have subbed to.
That’s absolutely not been my experience. Political topics are normally deleted in other forums I’ve been on.
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This is like saying that everything is religious and that everyone is religious and then making arguments for why everything can be turned into religious doctrin.
You’re technically not wrong if you choose to have that lens on for everything, but it is a very limiting way of viewing the world and to someone like me, borderline madness.
It is also more of an uhm actually argument rather than engaging with the point I was making that I think most of us are aware of. When someone says they would like to avoid politics they are more often than not referring to the aggressive and argumentative stupidity that occurs between people when certain inflamed topics - usually current events in politics - are brought up. It is pretty easy to discern that from anyone who says “can we just not talk about politics right now?”
Much like dicks and religion, some people just don’t want that shit shoved down their fucking throats constantly because it is rarely if ever productive and beneficial to anyone. It is, at most a passing contest or an attempt to shame and attack people who sees the world differently from yourself.
Lemmy has always been this way AFAIK, but let’s be honest if there was ever a time that people need to be be aware of politics it’s now.
Lemmy is political because you may be into Star trek, you may use Linux, but we are all beholden to corrupt, capitalist oligarchs and billionaires. It’s the one true shared interest of everyone here.
Also Star Trek and FLOSS are both intrinsically political.
Star Trek is THE political show
Everything is inherently political and engaging with the world around us is more healthy in the long run.
I gotchu, fam
How & why?
- AI
- Why not
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How about this?
or maybe it is uncanny because there are beans the size of boulders??
smh. “result of the uncanny AI effect.” talking about image generation like it’s some sort of magic taint that pervades the image. i’ll go draw large beans myself just to point out how fucking absurd what you’re saying is, brb.
Wild that you post this on a post that says “fuck AI”
I like to live on the edge…
Because the sole nature of Lemmy is political. The whole reason it exists is political. People want to move away from tech oligarchs and take control of their own spaces, of their data. Rotting on Reddit while all your data is being harvested and your interactions get turned into shareholder value is very convenient. Being on Lemmy is inconvenient (although it has become less so over the last year). So if you’re willing to ditch a very convenient platform because of your beliefs, and move to a platform that aligns more closely with said beliefs, then it’s fairly obvious why said platform is so political in nature.
This.
Just from the features and the convenience, Reddit is better. It’s bigger, it’s got more content, it’s easier, it’s more stable (or at least used to be). You don’t have to worry about your instance going under or anything like that.
The reason for the devs to invest their time to make lemmy and the apps and for admins to invest money and time into hosting and running the instances and for users to use this instead of Reddit is mainly the politics of wanting to have your own space with your own data.
There’s something comical about your discussion around leaving reddit and yet your comment starts like so much reddit trash.
This.
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This.
This.
This.
This.
This.
I’m tired of Lemmy users acting like they, on average, aren’t the people that people make fun of when they make fun of Redditors.
if you look at lemmy,ml, grad, and hexbear yea its super political. and then you have .world politics too.
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I mean, politics encompass everything. There is no escape, simply a tolerance for one flavor of politics over another. You may be in a position that views news and opinions as an annoyance, but I’m not free to forget what’s at stake.
Only zealots think like this. Politics is not everything, it is a topic like any other. If you can’t have a conversation with another person or enjoy an activity without thinking about politics, then you’re spending too much time online.
It’s weird to be called zealous.
Like, I’m just a normal fucking person in a time where people (including children) are getting kidnapped by the government for being brown. Trump pardoned violent criminals and their ring leaders as well as corrupt billionaires while pissing away our tax money into carpet bombing a nation of 48% children.
Fucking good for you if don’t mind the taste of boot, but I’m watching our way of life begin to collapse. Slapping the ‘politics’ label on it and feels like a load of bullshit.
You’re not a normal person, literally go outside and touch grass.
Normal people have political opinions, they do discuss politics, but that’s not their every thought. It might be shocking for you to hear, but people actually have lives outside of arguing about politics. This is true for people all around the world, rich or poor, old or young, male or female. Even in the most dire of circumstances, people find ways to enjoy life and not think about stressful things all the time. Otherwise they would be miserable all the time… like you.
Pointing out the reality is not “tasting the boot”, that’s just a cop out made by people on this site whenever their shitty opinions get exposed or pushed back. It’s a lazy way to dismiss criticism or opinions that contradict their extremely narrow and out of touch worldview. Come back to me when you actually go outside and talk to people from different backgrounds. Until then, you’re a zealot.
What the fuck are you on about? Touch grass? Come off with that shit man. You don’t know if I need an abortion or if my Medicare or Medicaid has been stalled by the government. You don’t know if I started carrying my birth certificate and passport everywhere I go just so I don’t get deported to El Salvador. You don’t know how many of my health insurance claims have been denied.
It’s like telling a soldier to ignore the war that things could be worse and they should enjoy life. I don’t think it’s a shit opinion to say that carpet bombing children is wrong. I think you’re projecting. You don’t know what life is like for most. You don’t know how bad things have gotten for most. You just know that things are good for you and your social circle and that everyone should make you feel comfortable and happy about it. Go find an echo chamber if that’s what you want.
You’re so dishonest it’s unbelievable. Nobody is arguing with you on your political opinions, that’s not the point of contention. You can think whatever you want, that’s your problem and right. What I was saying is that normal people don’t think about politics 24/7 like terminally online Lemmy users. People treat politics like they do any other subject. There are times when they think about, talk about it, and take action on it, and times where they don’t. It’s really simple as that.
This idea that people you deem as non privileged think about politics all day everyday is not reality. That’s an out of touch assumption that you made up to justify an inaccurate worldview you have. People not thinking about politics 24/7 doesn’t mean they don’t care about politics or that they ignore politics, it means that there’s more to life than politics. People who do spend all their time talking and thinking about politics aren’t normal, those are zealots, they’re fanatics. This is not a new or controversial, this was literally always the case.
“Politics is not everything, but anything can be politics.” - Chef Gusteau, Ratatoullie
Only zealots think like this.
This is the privileged take. So many people don’t have the luxury of not paying attention to politics because their very identity and public existence is being outlawed.
I literally lived in Iraq and Syria for a big portion of my life, and I spent even more time living in the inner cities of the US. Some braindead Lemmy user trying to accuse me of being privileged from their mother’s basement is exactly the type of ignorance that I expect from users on this site.
If people in literal warzones and in poverty can distinguish politics from everything else, then so can everybody else. This idea that people in bad circumstances think about politics 23/7 is not reality. This is an ignorant idea made by ideologues for ideologues. Even during the war in Iraq, people had weddings, they went to visit each other’s houses, they celebrated holidays, they talk about trivial things, and so on. Do you know why that’s the case? It’s because they’re people. You clearly don’t view them as such, hence you hold on to such an out of touch belief.
Some braindead Lemmy user trying to accuse me of being privileged from their mother’s basement
I love when people say this shit to me because it could only really ever sting if it’s true. When you’re a grown-ass adult who’s lived alone for over a decade, it kind of rings hollow. Nice try though.
You’ve also completely misrepresented my point so I’m not even going to bother continuing this.
It’s ironic how everything you said here applies directly to you.
Hey there, I too lived in one of the poorest and most densely populated regions in the world for half of my life.
Politics is unfortunately not a topic like any other. Unlike other subjects, this one materially affects all people in the relevant country, and often other countries too.
Governments work all the time to keep systems running, whether people think about them or not. But it is only by being aware of what is going on that people can make better choices when the time comes to choose new leaders.
Without political awareness, a person gives up their right to a say in how their country should be.
But you’re conflating two different things. Someone who doesn’t think about politics 24/7 isn’t necessarily politically unaware or politically unactive. It just means that they understand there’s more to life than politics. You can recognize that politics has more influence on your life than other things, but it’s not the only influence on your life nor is it everything in life. I mean you lived through it, you should know as well as I do that even during blackouts and war, people still find ways to do things life that isn’t politics.
Something this basic seems to be beyond comprehension for Lemmy users for some reason.
Agreed! There is more to a good life than politics.
Keeping an ear out, talking to people when relevant, and remembering it when it comes time to vote is enough.
I suppose the USA is having a particularly rough time of it lately, it’s understandable that many American users might have their situation front of mind.
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Calling people an ignorant, selfish asshole is really going to help see the light and day of why politics are important and/or make them see why your opinions are good.
If they’re too stupid to see it already then they can die with the rest of the idiots, we don’t care about convincing them anymore
That’s a wild assumption to have based on nothing. The reasons why someone spends so much time or very little time thinking about politics could be radically different. There are a lot of people who make politics their lives but are willfully ignorant, selfish assholes. This site is a prime example of that. At the same time there are very kind, well meaning people who don’t think about politics. This isn’t something that’s black and white.
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Good meme!
Answer you probably weren’t looking for:
Because while you might not be political, the Nazis are. They’re political enough for both of you, actually, and they prefer you non-political.
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what is the “beans” thing?
Examples
https://lemmy.fmhy.ml/post/582011
If you look up beans you’ll find a period of time where literally every meme were about beans
That and jeans for some reason
Glossy bean
I’ve touched it
I’ve probably licked it
I 100% fucked it.
