• priapus@sh.itjust.works
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    3 days ago

    Jonathan Joss also said a few months ago he burned his house down with his dogs in it after leaving a propane heater on.

    Source? The report I saw said he used a barbecue indoors but that it was turned off and the investigation didnt find it to be the cause.

    Even if he had other issues, the killer still shot him while shouting homophobic slurs at him. It doesnt change it being a hate crime.

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      3 days ago

      I think you need to do some reading on what a hate crime is.

      Driving down to a gay bar and indiscriminately attacking gays because they are gay? That’s a hate crime.

      Getting into an argument and shooting your neighbour you’ve had many arguments and threats with before - just a regular old murder.

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      3 days ago

      I’ve been going through sources the past couple of hours over this and I have no fucking idea what is going on. Joss and his husband seems to have given so many conflicting stories that I genuinely don’t know what is the truth anymore. This is exactly why I’m really apprehensive about calling this a hate crime or homophobia.

      The one I read initially said that he was using a propane heater indoors. That was this article. He said he was staying at a hotel to keep warm but came home to warm up the house for the dogs with a propane heater.

      Yet in this article he says that it was a propane grill that they had used to make hot chocolate. Also in that article he says something extremely important. That all three dogs were found which kind of puts it at odds with the claim that the dogs skull and harness was left behind. Also at odds with yet another article where he says

      Then there is this interview where he says that he was starting a fire inside of the house to keep warm.

      It doesnt change it being a hate crime.

      It… completely does. A hate crime is not a crime committed against someone of a minority while a slur is being said. It is a crime that is motivated because that person is a minority. It’s why the cops are saying this isn’t a hate crime. They had calls going back months over whatever was going on between these two and I seriously doubt that the dude hated Joss because he was native american or was gay when Joss was, once again, threatening people on his lawn with a crossbow and banging pots and pans at all hours of the night.

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        3 days ago

        Its possible they were shot for different reasons, but Joss’s husband and another neighbor both stated that they were harassed due to his sexuality. Joss clearly worsened the tensions with his neighbor, but it seems very likely that it initially started due to their issues with his sexuality.