Good old fashioned tribalism.
Every other answer on this thread boils down to tribalism.
Any and every form of dehumanization.
Any and every form of bigotry.
Any and every form of supremacy.
Any and every form of authoritarianism.
Every single person from the homeless guy at the on-ramp to TACO himself is an ordinary human. Some humans are born into extraordinary circumstances, some humans accomplish extraordinary feats, but we are all human. Humans are not born hating other humans. Hate is taught and encouraged and ingrained so that it may be passed on.
Universal Basic Income is a bandaid on a system couched in one of the ugliest human motivations; greed. I chose my name for that reason; Universal Basic Justice. Justice must be the base motivation; not ‘eye for an eye’ or ‘frontier justice,’ but the belief in treating others as you want to be treated; the belief in the powers of forgiveness, responsibility and growth; and the power of compassionate care dedicated to help those that are willing to learn and grow.
If and only if all those fail should a human be separated from society in a humane way that prevents their flaws from harming others.
Death Row is not justice. Guillotines are not justice. Systemic violence is not justice. No government nor individual should be empowered to decide who is worthy of justice, of forgiveness, of growth.
Every human is fallible. Every human deserves the opportunity to recognize their mistakes as well as the opportunity to learn, grow, and make reparations for those mistakes.
I don’t see these changes happening in my lifetime. At this point, I’m not sure we humans have enough lifetimes left to achieve these goals.
What I am sure of is the danger and violence incumbent within any ideology willing to look down at another human being.
Individualism.
It has led to a massive amount of duplication of human effort. We could all live massively improved lives if we acted as a community organization instead of a bunch of individual little fuckers whose opinions matter.
You should see what happens when you try force the people of an natural individualistic bend into community organization. Undermining, diversion and later, violence.
Right. Underscoring that individualism is a highly sinister force.
No, forcing compliance is the sinister part, resisting it is natural. People that talk like you is why people who disagree see little difference between fascism and socialism, one just has better health care access.
Religion, because they all believe that they are the only ones who are right, and everyone else needs to believe what they believe, or else something bad will come of it.
“Us vs them” mentality.
Ableism. As disability advocate Imani Barbarin says, if bigotry is the goal, ableism and eugenics are the toolkit. If you look at the history of any form of systemic bigotry, the justification for human atrocities almost always boils down to “well these people can’t contribute to society, so they don’t deserve to be a part of it.”
Isaac Asimov famously said, “There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that ‘my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.’”.
The idea that any idea is worth listening to because someone believes in it.
Show me the proof.
I see four downvotes.
Would love to know the position those people have. Are they threatened by their own ignorance being called out? Or are they just conservative?
I’d like to think that they are just mad that they have to see this quote so often these days.
I find this so confusing… it’s like the old saying, “if you don’t want to be called a fascist, don’t be a fascist!”
Conservatives have the strangest contradictions. They want to be all these socially and morally odious things, then get upset when we call them out on those very things.
I think any idea is worth listening to, it’s the assertion that we must inherently accept their viewpoint as valid that is outright absurd.
On the playground sure, but at some level it’s show the receipts first or get fucked up to discourage gish gallop. If we don’t preemptively shut it down, we’re in extreme danger.
I felt this way until recently, when I’m becoming much more aware of how limited our collective attention is. Every honest belief probably deserves to have one (maybe 3) reasonable people listen to it. But they definitely aren’t all worth national/state/city/expert attention.
It ends in either replacing humans with AGI or massive atrocities in an attempt to achieve it.
And there are people in positions of real power who believe in this stuff and act on it.
Andreessen posted a manifesto where he said that deliberately delaying AGI is basically mass murder and should be treated as such.
I too, think this is a really dangerous one that hasn’t quite pinged on most peoples’ radar yet because it’s so niche, but like you said, when people with power and influence can actually act on it, they have the capacity to cause a lot of harm over what would normally just be fringe philosophies.
Any religion. It makes people think of themselves as superior to other groups. It doesn’t even matter which religion. They’re all bad.
Islam. A combination of misogyny, oppressive laws, puritanical beliefs, child mutilation, condemnation of curiosity, and a particular focus on growth of numbers by both birth and conversion. Other religions are close behind though.
Edit: Didn’t realise the OP was called Allah, lol
Didn’t realise the OP was called Allah
Yeah, that and their defence of religion makes me question whether or not they ask this in good faith
no i am genuinely curious
I’m surprised by the number of downvotes I got, not that I particularly care about them per se, but the implication that so many people are either Muslim or support Islam on Lemmy is worrying.
i upvoted you even if i disagree because i like to engage opposite of my belief
yeah that’s my middle name, i don’t think i can change your mind but i will say this that majority of followers of islam have bad beliefs
If most Muslims have bad beliefs, what’s the common denominator/cause?
any proof that most muslims have bad belief?
You literally said
i will say this that majority of followers of islam have bad beliefs
misogyny. I’m not saying it causes the most death and harm (though it may), just that I’ve never met or heard of any dangerous ideology where misogyny wasn’t a core element.
Feminism inoculates against fascism.
Greed.
Religion has been said, but religion is always just the excuse for justifying greed
Belief that some unfalsafiable deity is behind you, and therefore any of your actions are righteous is incredibly dangerous, because there’s no accountability. How many atrocities are justified by religion, and the belief that justice will be done in the next life?
Religion is used to justify things like the fascist movement currently sweeping through the US, abhorrent regimes in the middle-east, and the subjugation of people (particularly women) everywhere
Of course, religion is the justification, but the real objective is to gather more wealth and power
From the mega-churches in the US, to the Vatican, to the mullah in a village somewhere in the world, it’s all about having more
Fascism. It makes people loose their humanity. Fascists endure anything as long as people outside their group are suffering.
Its not necessarily an ideology but all the worst ideologies have at root a lack of empathy and active methods to extinguish any trace of it. So lack of empathy or the violent suppression of it root and stem
I’ve been warning that the average American lacks empathy for YEARS. Conservatives seemingly lack the ability to feel empathy at all, which is why Musk “warns” that empathy is dangerous.
Look where we are now 🙃
Great, now we have metaideologies.
I go deep
Any ideology may be dangerous. People who are convinced they’re tuned into a privileged view on reality may be willing to kill others to protect it. Human history is full of proofs of that.
“On the whole I think that knowledge is preferable to ignorance, and I am sure that human sympathy is more valuable than ideology.” — Kenneth Clark
