I’m looking for places with less censorship so we can have actual discussions instead of only allowing comments that support the trans agenda.
That level of censorship does not help their cause; it actively hinders it because regular people aren’t allowed to have their own beliefs on the matter. Either they succumb to the hysteria, or they’re ousted.
I’d honestly be surprised if even asking this question didn’t result in censorship. That’s how bad things have gotten.
Edit: Plenty of personal attacks, but no legitimate answers! Did anyone come to this thread to actually answer the question?
The fact that this post and your answers are still up are, in itself, the proof that criticism of (sigh) « transgenderism » is accept here.
However you look like you dont understand how a conversation is working if you’re spewing hate and do the cry baby when we point out that you’re spewing hate you don’t want a conversation, you want people that will say you’re right which you are not
Fuck off transphobe, go back to Xitter
You’re a bigot who is on a platform that doesn’t tolerate bigotry. Off you fuck.
Social media is a circle jerk machine: It will reinforce any sentiment to it’s absolute limit.
A sub like the one you suggested will inevitably turn into a anti-trans hate machine. No such space will exist for long on Lemmy, nor should it.
I’m sorry to see that everyone seems to assume your question is in bad faith. But considering what you’re asking for - that’s kind of understandable, isn’t it?
If you are willing to be respectful and discuss ideas in good faith then there are lots of communities to choose from. Here are two off the top of my head:
!general@lemmy.world
!actual_discussion@lemmy.caIf you want to broaden your perspectives and have discussions with actual trans people you could try !trans@lemmy.blahaj.zone
However, it is clear that you are searching for a guaranteed safe space to say something that you aren’t comfortable voicing out loud, even on an anonymous forum. We have all seen this show before, hence the comments you are getting. If you want a radial free speech space to say anything without consequences then Lemmy isn’t your platform.
There. Now you can stop complaining that nobody will answer your question. Go do something more productive with your day.
thank you for this thoughtful, clear, and definitive answer to the question.
You keep demanding an answer to your question, so I will give you one.
I am not aware of any instances that allow or encourage discussions based on a position of bigotry and intolerance.
To be clear, you present your question in bad faith, and demand good-faith responses only. You claim that calling bigotry is censorship, and that intolerance is a valid stance in a discussion. You also repeatedly refuse to acknowledge that we are in fact having the discussion right here about your opinions on transgender issues.
EDIT: In fact, you are actively refusing to engage in the discussion you claim to be impossible. Pretty clear now that you’re just a troll - an oblivious troll.
I’m looking for places with less censorship so we can have actual discussions instead of only allowing comments that support the trans agenda.
Did anyone come to this thread to actually answer the question?
Looks like the answer you got was “not here” and you can’t accept that.
No.
How’s that?
Were you really looking for honest discussion? If you posted without inflammatory language and a combative attitude, you may have started an actual dialogue. But you didn’t.
May-be not talking about trans agenda and transgenderism would make your post feeling less bigoted, and more open for discussion.
And in general denying basic human rights to people no matter the reason sucks
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No. Go back to reddit or Twitter or wherever such asshole behavior is tolerated.
Pretty sure we’re not allowed to criticize transgenderism on reddit.
Twitter is a different format.
Neither is decentralized.
Also, people aren’t assholes just because they’re not loyal to transgender beliefs. You’re not helping the cause when you try to invalidate their views.
No, they’re assholes. And their views aren’t worth validating. Shouldn’t be platformed or even entertained as much as I’ve entertained yours.
So ill say it plain and leave it at this. Fuck off back to the Klan rally. Cunt.
I’m going to ignore you because you’re being extremely rude.
May as well just cut off your ears at this point because a lot of people are going to be very rude to you anywhere you try to spout this shit outside of the Klan rally the commentor mentioned.
Stop worrying about what’s in other people’s pants, you’ll have a much more relaxed life.
You started this thread with hostility and rudeness, what exactly did you expect?
The fact that you include terms like “trans agenda” and “transgenderism” in your post are pretty clear indications that you’re not serious about avoiding rudeness.
But they are acting like assholes when they say things like “trans hysteria”. Combative and dismissive behavior is jerk behavior, so if you don’t want people to call you one, don’t act like one.
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Well you seem to consider it a “hysteria” and a “trans agenda”, so I don’t think you would welcome any actual discussion. Or that you care at all either way.
If you really want to discuss the question of what gender really is, does it exist, and how this messy stuff of being a human functions, there are much better ways to open a discussion.
Do you know any lemmy communities that allow criticism of transgenderism?
Most of them. There are a couple of crazy ones, but mostly don’t be an asshole and I doubt many would ban you for expressing an opinion that gender is permanently fixed on birth/conception. You would get downvoted a lot though.
Can you share some examples?
Based on what I’ve seen and experienced, most communities do not allow criticism of transgenderism and will ban anyone for “expressing an opinion that gender is permanently fixed on birth/conception.”
You have a chance to run an experiment.
Know your audience. A lot of people here are trans or trans-adjacent. Imagine if you were speaking to a room full of trans people. What would you say to convince them to accept their birth gender? Or at least not be booed out of the room.
We could probably have this discussion in a community that allows criticism of transgenderism.
Is the conversation not happening right here and now? You have been given an offer to speak and it feels a bit like you are shutting it down yourself. It feels like you are concerned that it will not go over well.
I believe that trans people have a right to live and thrive, just as anyone does. To me the question feels like “should we let people with brown hair exist?” “All those brownies are trying to make us all have brown hair!”
Do you have an answer to the thread’s question?
We can have it RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW. Nobody is censoring you, but you refuse to engage in the debate you claim you can’t post about.
You are just begging the question, troll. Get out of here with your doubly dishonest “discussion”. Holy fuck, obvious troll.
Nah, I checked the user’s history before engaging, they (heh) seem to be honestly convinced. But I don’t think even they can explain where their fear of trans people comes from.
Not really.
Your opinion is being allowed right here and now. But because you suck, you’re being criticized and down voted.
Try Truth Social.
It’s been a long time that I’ve seen an actual fascist on here. Probably just another rage bait account. Fuck off. Thanks.
Do you know any lemmy communities that allow criticism of transgenderism?
Surely replying with the same question over and over will eventually get you the answer you’re hoping for
Trying to stay on topic.
In here is a good place, as you can see you aren’t being censored.
That being said, let me show you how you read by changing a single word:
I’m looking for places with less censorship so we can have actual discussions instead of only allowing comments that support the black agenda.
That level of censorship does not help their cause; it actively hinders it because regular people aren’t allowed to have their own beliefs on the matter. Either they succumb to the hysteria, or they’re ousted.
I’d honestly be surprised if even asking this question didn’t result in censorship. That’s how bad things have gotten.
And there’s no “belief” in the matter, transgender is an understood condition, like ADHD or skin color. You trying to claim transgenders are not people, or that gender is not a social construct is just ridiculous, that’s why you’ll get downvoted or banned, same reason you would get arrested by going somewhere and claiming blacks are not humans, you’re factually incorrect, spreading misinformation and promoting violence, none of which should be tolerated in any civilized society due to the Tolerance Paradox.
