• robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]@hexbear.net
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      two sentences is hardly a rant and there are plenty of quotes from american officials and armchair generals about how this war is great because it’s degrading “our enemy” without costing american lives.

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        I believe that degrading the army of one of the US greatest geopolitical world rivals at the cost of roughly 3% of the DoD budget is money well spent. In that there is no US blood is an added advantage. The Ukrainians are fighting this war for their own purpose, to reject tyrannical rule. That’s something that’s happened for a millennium, including the American revolution.

        The US didn’t impose this war, 100,000 Russians invading did. As France helped the US during the revolution, the US helps Ukraine.

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          I believe that degrading the army of one of the US greatest geopolitical world rivals at the cost of roughly 3% of the DoD budget is money well spent.

          They’re not gonna let you into the club just because you lick the boot leather. I believe the 100.000s of dead ukrainians are more important than some vague US geopolitical goal.

          The Ukrainians are fighting this war for their own purpose, to reject tyrannical rule.

          The ukrainians are forcibly conscripted and banned from leaving their country. They do not want to fight.

          The US didn’t impose this war, 100,000 Russians invading did

          Yeah one day putler just woke up and felt like invading, that’s what happened.

          If you think this is such a good war, go volunteer.

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            The Ukrainians could stop this war anytime they want, as could Putin.

            Reality is the Russians invaded. They rejected world order.

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              The Ukrainians could stop this war anytime they want

              The Ukrainian government could, the same government that banned every political party that wasn’t sufficiently anti-Russia. And the last time the people got to vote, they elected Zelensky who ran as a peace candidate. So no, the people of Ukraine, the ones being drafted and sent to the front lines, have very little say over whether Ukraine negotiates for peace.

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                Wait a minute…you expect a country to tolerate those sympathetic with a country.that they’re at war with?

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                  “Wait a minute” None of this surprises you. Youre doing this for show. You want us to feel guilty about our beliefs, and your plan is to act shocked and bewildered by things you know. Begone debate-pervert

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                    There were Nazi groups in the US at the beginning of WWIi. They were quite large. Within a year, every leader of the Bund was interned or jailed as dangerous aliens, and by the end of December 1941, the US Government outlawed the German-American Bund

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                  I thought Ukraine were the Good Guys ™? Good Guys don’t repress political groups because they disagree with them, they should debate them in the marketplace of ideas.

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                    The US jailed every leader of the US Nazi Bund as dangerous aliens, and by the end of December 1941, the US Government outlawed the German-American Bund.

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                  World order is acknowledging sovereign countries exist and it’s wrong to invade them

                  The United States has invaded many more countries than Russia and China, and yet they are sanctioned for doing so/if America thinks they might do so, while not a single person in the American government is punished for the deaths of millions. They even get promoted and hired again on later governments! America created the world order! Rules for thee, not for me!

                • AOCapitulator [they/them, she/her]@hexbear.net
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                  Right right, which countries acknowledge that Palestine exists again?

                  You don’t care. You’ve never cared! Stop lying to our fucking faces you gremlin, you love this! You love this war because you’re a mindless western drone that loves cheering for imperialism and the deaths of the enemies of ‘the west’

                  You don’t give a single fuck about countries sovereignty, nor of human rights, nor of life and liberty

                  Fuck off