Bonjour, c/opensource@lemmy.ml
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Framasoft (that’s us!) is a small French non-profit (10 employees + 25 volunteers), that has been promoting Free-Libre software and its culture to a French-speaking audience for 20+ years.
What does Framasoft do?
We strongly believe that Free-Libre software is one of the essential tools for achieving a Free-Libre society. That is why we maintain and contribute to lots of projects that aim to empower people to get more freedom in their digital lives.
Among those tools are:
- 20 FOSS based web-services that we host (mainly for our French-speaking audience) on our Degooglify Internet website, including Framadate and Framaforms… ;
- many talks, workshops, and participations to conventions ;
- A blog, where we share our views and where a group of volunteers translate into French news from the English-speaking FLOSS world ;
- Many, many ressources to help people and organizations in their transition to ethical digital tools (guides, documentation, even card games!) ;
Framasoft is funded by donations (94% of our 2024 budget), mainly grassroots donations (75% of the 2024 budget). As we mainly communicate in French, the overwhelming majority of our donations comes from the French-speaking audience. You can help us through joinpeertube.org/contribute.
We develop PeerTube
In the English-speaking community, we are mostly known for developing PeerTube, a self-hosted video and live-streaming free/libre platform, which has become the main alternative to Big Tech’s video platforms.
From a student project to a software with international reach, our video platform solution is now, seven years later, used and acknowledged by many institutions!
The last major version of PeerTube, v7, has been released at the end of 2024, along with the first version of the official mobile app, available on both Android (Play Store, F-Droid) and iOS.
Now that the PeerTube platform has matured significantly over successive versions, we believe that the way to enable even more people to use PeerTube is to improve the mobile app so that it can be carried around in people’s pockets.
Ask Us Anything!
Last month, we have published the roadmap for the project. This week, we also launched our new crowdfunding campaign which focuses on our mobile app. We want to give you the opportunity through this AMA to give us feedback on the product and the project and discuss the crowdfunding campaign and our next steps!
If you have any questions, please ask them below (and upvote those you want us to answer first).
We will answer them to the best of our abilities with the /u/Framasoft
account, from May. 28th 2025 5pm CET (11 am EST) until we are too tired ;).
EDIT (8:16 pm CET): This wraps it for the day, thanks for all of your questions and feedback!
will you try to modernize the office suit (framacalc etc) like you did peertube?
Hello!
Yes, we’re actually working on modernizing our de-google-ify suit! However, it’ll take time since we need to review each service and identify what are our needs and how we can fit them! Do we need to develop new features for an existing software? Are we able to do so? Is there a new software fully fitting our needs? Or maybe there are other promising softwares but not ready yet?
There are a lot of things to consider, especially when we’re talking of services being used by 2M people each month!
I want to run a PT instance that just mirrors 100% of the CC-licensed videos on YouTube, so folks using Tor and VPNs can access it.
I’m not looking to make money, but I do need to cover the monthly costs of the server. What methods are available to monetize the site? Is there some plugin that can simply inject (privacy friendly) pre-warch ads?
For now, it’s mostly only the possibility writing in the “About” page of the server ways to support it, possibly with a banner above videos to encourage people to give money. Creators can also add a “Support” button below videos to tell viewers how to support them.
But I think some people are working on requiring people to login and have a subscription to view videos.
I don’t know of an existing plugin that injects pre-roll ads, but it could probably already be developed with the current available APIs.
Thank you! Would you ever consider employing developers elsewhere in EU to work on the apps & services?
Hi!
We’re actually considering hiring a new full-stack developer in the future (to work on all of our services, not on PeerTube) and that would be possible for us to hire someone leaving in another country if: * the person accepts a French salary-level * the person speaks French (a big part of our team does not speak English)
Keep watching our posts on our social media, so you won’t miss the announce!
Exciting! I am however not speaking french so I am automatically excluded as a candidate this time around :)
I hope you find a really good candidate!
Interessant !
Thank you for your work.
As far as I understand it one of the big advantages is that every viewer simultaneously provides its download data for others to stream (peering). With this approach server capacity can be reduced but I wonder how well this works (If I even understood it correctly).
With this system could it be possible to host videos on an own server without having to pay huge sever costs?
Also what is a nice website to search through all videos, similar to the front page of YouTube?
The P2P system in PeerTube works very well if you have many concurrent viewers. You can have more information in our blogpost that details a P2P stress test: https://joinpeertube.org/news/stress-test-2023 But if most of the time you don’t have many concurrent viewers, you’ll still have to pay the bandwidth. But as you can see in the blog post above, PeerTube is not very expensive to host (if you don’t have to store many videos).
There’s nothing stopping you installing PeerTube on your own home server and uploading your videos to that.
If your internet bandwidth is low, you can have other PeerTube servers mirror your videos.
So when someone watches your videos, it will not only download the data from your home server, but also from other PeerTube servers that mirror your videos.
It won’t reduce server storage usage, because the video needs to be placed somewhere, but it will reduce bandwidth and traffic usage.
Some PeerTube websites have Sepia Search enabled, so fx from PeerTube.wtf, you can search through 1000+ servers.
Also not Framasoft, but for your search question their Sepia Search https://sepiasearch.org/ would be your best bet to get hits across known Peertube instances/platforms.
Your favorite Peertube instance/platform has its own front page, and they’ve done a bit of work in the Android app to have an explore tab to have similar across its tracked instances.
Not part of Framasoft, but I am administrating a PeerTube platform/instance myself, and can anecdotally say, that it works rather well. Another factor is, that as an admin, you can set up to automatically mirror videos on other instances, when they meet certain criteria.
For example, I have ~300GB set aside to mirror trending, new and most-watched videos of some instances, that I consider to have quality (EDIT: and reliably non-illegal) content regularily (e.g. spectra.video, makertube.net, peertube.wtf, etc.) That way, in addition to just users watching videos acting as a seeding peer via webtorrent, my own dedicated server in Finland among other professional servers with large bandwith also add to the resilience of the network, even for smaller instances.
Anecdotally, I have also heard of some people running a PeerTube instance successfully from just a SBC, like a RaspPi or similar, from home, utilising the WebTorrent integration you mentioned to their advantage. Here’s a video I remember talking about this as an example.
From PeerTube docs:
At the beginning of PeerTube, we only supported Web Video (previously known as “WebTorrent”) streaming. Due to several limitations of the Web Video system, we had to add HLS with P2P support. Unfortunately, we can’t use the same video file for the two methods: we need to transcode 2 different versions of the file (a fragmented mp4 for HLS, and a raw mp4 for Web Videos).
So if you enable Web Videos and HLS, the storage will be multiplied by 2.
We recommend you to enable HLS (and disable Web Videos if you don’t want to store 2 different versions of the same video resolution) because video playback in PeerTube web client is better:
- Support P2P (using WebRTC) to exchange parts of the video with other users watching the same video to save server bandwidth
- Support video redundancy by other PeerTube platforms
- The player can adapt video resolution automatically
- Video resolution change is smoother
It’s probably not WebTorrent you are using, HLS.
Also, thank you for running with redundancy! I need to get it setup myself, with some new SSDs.
As I’m German (from near the French border, even, but unfortunately, not speaking even just basic French), and Germany is also relatively big on the Fediverse and the open source/hacker communities, I’ve often wondered, if there are (official) cooperations between German and French activists. Does Framasoft (or individual members of it) participate in anything like that?
Collab with arte would be great?
Copyright law would be in the way, Arte content is only available in France, Germany and parts of Switzerland. I have to use a VPN to even get their youtube videos, which are otherwise geofenced.
I believe they have their own player already, so unsure what would be their direct interest, but the PeerTube ecosystem could be useful to them anyway. For instance there’s a big French institution that uses PeerTube runner for their video transcription tasks (and paid for specific features), but doesn’t use the PeerTube server or player at all.
I don’t think we have been. Thing is, we do not know of many organizations that are identical to us in other countries: we’re not really a Linux or FLOSS group, and we don’t lobby governments or other institutions. In some ways, we’re similar to Disroot which also offers services as we do, but since we do quite a lot of other stuff (developing PeerTube, producing commons, sharing knowledge, and we even have a publishing house!)
Even if we have been working with a lot of partners, most of them are French and on very specific topics.
If people want to join forces on the FLOSS-software-hosting services topic, maybe look into something similar to the (very french) CHATONS (and possibly https://libreho.st/, but it’s no longer active to our knowledge).
On the topic of contributing to develop things together, we’re not doing much apart from PeerTube (we only have two developers, and both are working nearly fully on PeerTube).
hi from the Mastodon team, we’d love to work more closely with you in the future on Fediverse and freedom related topics 🙂 also, I am personally a big fan of PeerTube, and think the work you do is fantastic! 🐙
Hi!
Thank you so much for your kind words!
Feel free to send us a message through our contact form whenever you want to talk about a specific topic! We’re always interested to talk with other Fediverse project so we can try to provide softwares!
https://contact.framasoft.org/en/
We hope to hear from you soon!
Thank you for the answer, that makes a lot of sense. I think the very unique structure and goals you have developed have served you well, since PeerTube might be one of the best fleshed-out projects in the Fediverse space, at least in my opinion.
Thanks for your kind words!
Thanks for your work. I have two questions:
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Will the set-up wizzard include federation settings? (Federate by default or defederate by default)?
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What are current plans for FramaDate? That was the only usable project for sheudling TTRPG sessions that I have found, but it has a bunch of issues on mobile.
Hi!
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The wizard is still not designed, but yes we think it will include federation settings so it’s easier for institutions or private instances to setup a “safe” PeerTube instance.
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We’re actually evaluating alternative softwares for Framadate, with mobile support as a required feature. We’ll tell more about it once we’re ready!
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I love the idea that stuff should be free, but at the moment we do live a capitalist society and hosting videos especially is a costly enterprise.
I am wondering therefore whether there are any plans to provide options for content creators (and server hosters) to make money with videos on peertube (other than including advertisements in the videos)?
I think Peertube can never grow when content creators do have the costs of creating, hosting and serving their videos, while at the same time not having a good way to earn money back for their work.
Monetization is a complicated and potentially sensitive topic that we have not yet addressed. However, this is not the only reason why YouTube is in its dominant position; even with monetization, the network effect of this platform will always remain.
PeerTube today meets the demand for video hosting (e.g., the market where Vimeo is positioned), but is not really a distribution channel with social features like YouTube.
While our goal is not to provide a definitive answer to this shortcoming, we are considering possibilities for integration with third-party payment or subscription platforms (such as Patreon) to make it easy to restrict videos to subscribers, for example. That’s something we’re thinking of, but is very far from being done.
Finally, there is already the Bunseed project (website exclusively in French, sorry) which is looking into this issue and has a prototype based on Ghost (publishing, subscription, email) + PeerTube + payment platform (such as Stripe).
My opinion: Figuring monetization out while keeping most of your audience happy will be the most important step to be a viable alternative to YouTube. Big YouTubers like LinusTechTips, Corridor Digital or something like Nebula already have their own service, because it is worth it to have fewer people pay more. Sadly everyone of them develops their own solution which are not interoperable. Are you in the talks with anyone to migrate to PeerTube backend? I think this would be such a gamechanger.
Maybe a survey can disprove my opinion. but i would argue the option of having ads plus paying for the ability to remove ads is something most users would accept (even if there is a vocal minority). especially if you explain that researching and developing some forms of content (documentaries, video courses, investigative journalism) can take dozen of hours and is not feasible to do without getting paid when aiming for the highest quality.
That could be better then just restricting videos (mitra could also be a open source alternative to patreon).
Not Framasoft, but here’s a few ideas on monetizing:
The software allows you to post a “Support” button under the video with links for donations, etc. It also allows you to upload platform member only (internal) and password protected videos that you could charge access via another means to unlock.
Plugins can be added by admins to add monetization more directly as well. For example https://github.com/kontrollanten/peertube-plugin-premium-users is an attempt adds the ability to have premium videos with Stripe as the payment processor/verifier.
Admins can also soft fork and add in whatever customizations to enable monetization too as long as they adhere to the AGPL terms.
Hi! Thank you for all your work :)
I’m wondering if 30 seconds is a reasonable latency for live streaming on a raspberry pi 5 instance ?
And if I want to store the videos on another drive, is it so simple as just changing the path for “/var/www/peertube/storage” in the production.yaml file ?
Finally, is it possible to connect to the live session chat with another fediverse instance (mastodon or lemmy) ?
Yes it is if you don’t use muxing (disable transcoding) because we don’t think the Raspberry CPU will be able to handle it. Yes, you can use another drive with PeerTube. It just doesn’t support a remote drive (network mounted point for example). No, you can’t connect to the live chat using Masotdon or Lemmy, but you can using another PeerTube instance or using a XMPP client.
Thank you !
oh so live chat uses XMPP protocol, cool!
Will you guys add þe ability to login to an instance þat isn’t provided in þe app already into þe ios app?
Est-ce que vous allez ajouter la possibilité de se connecter à une instance qui n’est pas fournie dans l’application déjà dans l’application ios?
Yes, we are looking into allowing users to add their platforms manually (as you can already do on Android). We just don’t have an ETA yet!
First of all, thanks for doing this.
Secondly, the friction of using PeerTube is more than any other application within the Fediverse. Even subscribing doesn’t follow a sane UX with the button randomly appearing at the bottom of the screen. Do you not think that mirroring something closer to the YouTube UX would minimise friction?
Thirdly, can you please create a tool that will scrape my YouTube subscriptions and look for their PeerTube channels, so I actually have a reason to open the app. Finding content is still really really really hard.
There’s honestly not many content creators on PeerTube from YouTube and I’m not sure how a tool like that would even work.
Oh, sorry to hear this. We’ll make sure to follow your observations to the team.
As we can now afford to pay designers, some parts of the interface are being improved, but it’s a slow progress. Here are some resources on our work in v7: https://joinpeertube.org/news/share-ressources
About finding your favorite YouTube creators on PeerTube, this is still hard, as they’re probably aren’t as much as you think they’d be, if you think the scraping tool would be very useful. Using browser extensions such as https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/addon/peertube-companion/ or https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/addon/peertubeify/ which redirect you to a PeerTube version of a YouTube video could give you a view of the content currently on both platforms.
Otherwise, accounts such as Fedivideo mentioned in this thread are doing a very good job to curate content you might like, and we want to help that (with our limited resources).
They have sepiasearch to search peertube instances. The drawback is that only specific instances are searchable, because of dubious contents on some instances.
Sepia Search consist of all these instances: https://instances.joinpeertube.org/instances
Also, PeerTube platforms can activate the same search index as Sepia Search, so you can make the same search directly from a platform.
What is peertube platforms?
Instances / Servers
I find Fedivideo is quite a good place to start finding stuff. But would be interested to hear from Framasoft their ideas. https://fedi.video/
@Framasoft would be really nice to work more on compatibility with other fediverse software. There have been a lot of quirks with how comments on peertube render across fediverse platforms, like the way your @mentions don’t render as links when the posts feterate out to many other places etc. What can we do to iron out these type of issues other then just filing bug reports?
@Framasoft hey @db0 I just commented in this post from my mastodon and see its not federating to the OP post. Any idea why? I know I was recently able to comment on .ml posts but maybe I am blocked from .world? How does one even go about figuring that out
Federates fine on dbzer0/lemmy.world
It has fediversed to jlai.lu. Many it is just a lacenty issue.
It see it both from lemmy.dbzer0.com and lemmy.world. Where do you not see it?
@db0 oh weird it’s now showing up. I guess federation was just really slow. It wasn’t showing on either .ml or .world for like 20 minutes
Note that comment federation can get a bit weird between lemmy and mastodon. Replies from mastodon might only be visible from the instance of the user’s you’re replying to directly, if that instance is not the one owning the community, because of the way that mastodon tends to send replies to the user’s instance, instead of sendind them to the community’s instance (which would then forward them to everyone)
We’re not aware of this federation issue. So yes, please, describe the problem at https://github.com/Chocobozzz/PeerTube/issues and we’ll look into it!
Hey I just want to say that I love your work! Truly inspirational. I think that it shows that small teams can work better in some respects as larger orgs. Is this something that you are seeing as well?
I think we are indeed more efficient, more agile and adaptive than larger orgs, but it’s probably also because we were lucky enough to have many very skilled team mates :)
However, it also means that not everything is as polished as some bigger players, but we think we manage to give the best value for the price!
Do larger one-time or smaller monthly donations help your organization more?
We prefer monthly donations because they help us maintain financial stability throughout the year, whereas one-time donations tend to come in mainly when we run fundraising campaigns like this one (which means that some months our cash flow is low).
Thank you for your support!
I love your guys work and fully support it. I think libre software is the only way foward if we don’t want worse and worse platforms.
Question: Do you think Peertube will likely ever have a the diversity of content that YouTube has or with different motives for making content it may never reach that scale?
We don’t think PeerTube will directly replace YouTube at some point, but we do think that some organizations, media outlets, and content creators may not have the same level of interest in posting on YouTube as they do today. For all of them, we hope they will find PeerTube to be a good fit.
Salut! Ca va? (Learning French)
Salut ! Ça va et toi ?
Ca va bein, merci.
Comment est la météo chez toi ? Chez moi, il fait gris.
Oh no, I barely understand 1/3 of what you said. I’m getting there.
Comment est la météo chez toi ? Vois-tu le soleil ? Chez moi, le soleil est derrière les nuages.
La meteo est……meh. Le soleil apparait tres petit. J’esperot le soleil
Peut-être demain.
Learning French
Moi aussi! Quelle methode utilisez-vous?
I only understand your first sentence lol. I think you’re asking how I’m learning?
Oui. “What method are you using?”
A mix of Duolingo & Rosetta Stone. I’m going to protest Duolingo and just stick with RS. My parter (who’s French) makes fun of RS because it’s so formal lol, so over think and struggle with it.
I’ve been using Duolingo. I get, and even agree with, most of the criticism of it, but I’m not sure anything else would actually work for me because the heavy gamification is what keeps me actually making progress at it.
Salut !
Nous allons bien, oui, merci !
Nous espérons que toi aussi ! :)