I took it out of the meme to avoid seeming cluttered, but I must mention that they don’t just want USian corporations to have the monopoly. Renewables are at odds with capitalism and capitalists know oil is more lucrative than less labor intensive alternatives. Ted Reese makes a strong explanation for the lack of adoption of hemp and solar in SoE.

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    I totally see your point, I never said that the west is doing better. I’m not a fan of the us either and I am fucking disappointed in the western governments to not push for more sustainability. I just don’t think people realise what is going on in china and I am tired of reading “china is not that bad, look at the us!” China has basically no human rights, they fucking paint grass green so they can pretend to reach their goals. They have laws, forbidding to collect cooking oil out of trash cans and the sewers. They systematically disappear Uyghurs to off site facilities and “coincidentally” Volkswagen builds a new factory directly next to those buildings. I totally see the responsibility with western companies. But on the other hand, forced labour in this extend does not happen in western countries. I know the us government and us companies are doing super dirty shit, like the killings of union workers in south America by Coca-Cola or their involvement in other countries politics. And do you think as a Chinese citizen you would criticise the government in a servey if literally everything you do is monitored, everywhere you go in a city is filmed by cameras, every app in the app store has to be approved by the government? By law every Chinese company has to provide access to all the data of the users to the government. If you criticise China publicly on tiktok (as shitty as Instagram imo) your post either gets removed or you get blocked. I get that the west has to be careful what we say against eastern countries, because we are greatly responsible for what is going on there. But china deliberately shows their “we build green energy” side and hides their “we have the highest build rate of coal plants” side

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      Again, you think China is investing hundreds of billions for show?

      China has basically no human rights, they fucking paint grass green so they can pretend to reach their goals.

      Largest afforestation in the world by far is “painting grass green” to you.

      They have laws, forbidding to collect cooking oil out of trash cans and the sewers.

      The horror, how could anyone live in a dystopia like that. Worst law ever.

      They systematically disappear Uyghurs to off site facilities

      It’s called peaceful terrorism prevention. They had a handful of terrorist attacks and Wahhabism had spread from China’s neighbors, so they educated and developed that area rather than shooting anything that moves. This approach has made lots of progress and the program is over.

      And do you think as a Chinese citizen you would criticise the government in a servey if literally everything you do is monitored, everywhere you go in a city is filmed by cameras, every app in the app store has to be approved by the government?

      That’s projection from the US and UK where it’s much worse.

      and hides their “we have the highest build rate of coal plants” side

      Their existing coal plants are far more efficient than those in the west, and they’re ceasing to make more.

      Gonna need a source on your surveillance claims.

      Again, if it sucks so bad why does the polling show it’s pretty livable?

      Take a look at the comrade above’s comment if you haven’t.