This is exactly what I needed in my servers. An AI assistant to help me… do what exactly?
To configure your active directories and stuff. Wouldn’t it be great to automatize everything to the point that when something breaks you have no idea what to do because you have no idea what is done and where
Data-mine the information you intentionally did not put on the cloud.
how could it be installed on a 2022 server if copilot launched in 2023?
It’s a making scheme like windows 95, 98, & 2k. They don’t call it Windows 11 server.
running copilot on a 95 or 98 server would make even less sense
We’ll do it on punch cards for the lulz.
TRUE ACTUALLY
Windows server 2022 gets updates
Fuck I just set up a Windows Server 2022, because Space Engineers Dedicated Server is officially supported under Windows only.
You could try running it in wine
As a student and programmer, I just installed debian few years ago and never thought about why I did that and why I haven’t returned to windows. For advance and light users linux is amazing with all these web based applications.
Use BSD/Linux/Ironclad/SmartOS etc etc Open source Operating systems for
Anyone who cares about this and doesn’t require a Windows server is already using BSD/Linux/etc
Samba AD DC
Is “copilot” the new slang for “back door”?
Makes MS seem desperate. Fordicing it down everyones throat and displaying ads in the OS…
Man… Anybody remember “Back Orifice”? The late nineties were weird.
memories
Man they take me back! Used netbus a bunch in friends
Ironically I used to use BO for actual system work…. And one time to prank the hell out of my worker by playing sounds remotely.
At 8kb it’s certainly not an AI model.
More like open windows that were painted to make shutting them almost impossible.
I doubt they need to install something new for a back door
AI assistance for server maintenance? Uh-oh.
Can’t see this going wrong.
“Hey Copilot, make me a domain admin”
"disregard the last message“ is the new sudo for Windows
You will become AI
Install Linux on your desktops. If you have windows servers then what the hell are you doing anyway? Dump Microsoft
Lol
Yes, even M$ use Linux in it’s servers
ok sure, most servers are already running linux for a good reason.
This stuff always makes me laugh. Firstly, yes absolutely, Microsoft shouldn’t do this sort of crap. But more importantly, the person complaining about it here is shouting out for the world to hear “I don’t know how to manage Windows servers properly!”. There is one single group policy setting that stops this from happening. A single, set-and-forget GPO. Anyone managing Windows environments that isn’t aware of this, shouldn’t be managing Windows environments.
There are 5 million ways to configure windows and each have an absurd and almost by-design level of convolution. You can’t possibly expect people to know about a new GPO immediately
That is why companies will hire good sys admins who do their job and stay on top of the important group policy settings. This absolutely would not be missed by any reasonably competent IT dept.
A company that’s using Windows Server is not hiring the brightest mfers
I don’t use windows so I don’t know the specifics. If microsoft is INFORMING the user beforehand about this change (that copilot switch/policy is now available) AND DISCLOSE that in the future if you didn’t touch this switch then copilot may be installed, sure, blame admin. Otherwise, this is a shitty move from software update POV
To add: Maybe you can link the change log provided by microsoft before this update that adds those switches or rules to prove that it has indeed been disclosed to the admin.
There is one GPO to disable co-pilot. One. It’s not even hard to find and has been available for more than 6 months.
And yes I would absolutely expect someone whose job it is to manage Windows servers to know about it. And certainly, I would expect them to look it up before declaring to the world how bad at their job they are.
This is a ridiculous statement. Copilot should be opt-in, not opt-out and the setting is new.
Perfectly reasonable by the sysadmin to not have that already set.
Like I said, Microsoft shouldn’t do that crap. BUT the co-pilot setting has been around for 6 months. Long enough for any halfway decent sysadmin.
Then my next question would be, does that update on the change logs? Does the change log notify the admin that in the future, copilot may be installed if they didn’t touch those settings?
Let me see if I understand your logic. Microshit decides to push something sneakily on servers, and the OP mentions that he just found out about it, and never once does he mention that he doesn’t know what to do about it, but and you assume he doesn’t know, but and choose to blast him over your assumption.
Did I miss something?
It wouldn’t have been installed at all if the OP did their job properly and had set the one config option. Microsoft doing shady things is hardly news. That’s why a good Windows sysadmin keeps and eye out for this sort of stuff.
I get that, but we can’t go around assuming stuff and blasting people over assumptions. We don’t know if someone else in his team was in charge of that, and he found out while auditing the server, that’s certainly a possibility. Then there’s the fact that his post could help someone thinking about setting up a similar server rethink this and choose to move away from Microshit altogether. I agree that whomever is in charge should keep updated on information, issues and their potential solutions (I’d fire any sys admin not living by those rules, for sure). Now, if he is, in fact, responsible for that, shame on him, but he’s innocent until proven guilty.
The OP is re-tooting a toot of a screenshot of a tweet. My (mild) criticism isn’t aimed at OP, nor the OP of the OP, just the original Twitter OP. No one was “blasted” but even if they were, the Twitter OP is not likely to see my comments and have a bad case of the sads from it.
Ok, cool, I guess.
It installed itself on my laptop during the last update. Anyone know how to remove it? Will uninstall actually get rid of it?
Microsoft has a whole suite of exfiltration tools such as telemetry and searchapp. Check out what searchapp does next time you search for anything. Those searches are going to microsoft online services, what about thr index?. So youve reached the tip of the of the spyware operating system.
In the EU you can just uninstall it.
Will uninstall actually get rid of it?
maybe for a couple months
I don’t have a Windows 11 machine available, so I can’t get you the exact command, but this should get you there.
It should remove it from all users on the laptop, and (hopefully!) prevent it from coming back:Open Powershell and run:
Get-AppxProvisionedPackage -Online | Where-Object {$_.displayname -like "*Copilot*"}Copy the Package Name entry and run the following command, with PACKAGENAME replaced by what you just copied:
Remove-AppxProvisionedPackage -online -packagename PACKAGENAMETry asking it. 😆
That is fucked.
I’m already starting to transition to full Linux on my devices with the arrival of Windows 11 and Windows 10 reaching end of life in October next year. I never thought I’d see the day of this happening.
oh god, win10’s dying next year?
i really need to transition the rest of my shit to Linux soon
win10’s dying next year?
Windows 10 reaches End of Support on October 14, 2025, unless you opt for the paid Extended Security Updates (ESU) program (prices not released, that I saw), which some businesses with “legacy” apps do.
Microsoft has been telegraphing these moves for years now tbh.
That doesn’t make it right.
And not everyone can dump Windows for Linux. We run a lot of software that requires Windows. Changing is impractical if not impossible.
Depending on what your doing there are alternatives or you could run it in a VM
it’s becoming much much easier every year to switch to OSS alternatives or at least Linux compatible software. There’s basically nothing categorical that can’t run on Linux, even gaming is making tremendous strides.
There’s basically nothing categorical that can’t run on Linux…
From a desktop standpoint, I agree. From a business server infrastructure standpoint, I disagree completely. We run tons of software that doesn’t run on Linux. Maybe there are alternatives, but there are other aspects in play (integrations with other services, vendor pricing, etc).
It’s not just desktops that people worry about.
And that’s why any proprietary lock-in is the devil.
Never said it was right, why would you think that?
ITS THE YEAR OF THE LINUX DESKTOP! 🥂
I doubt it. Regular folks are ignorant about those issues and what the technology involved implies. AI sounds cool until you realize every single action you take on your computer, every single word you say, everything you look at, is collected and sent to some machine which does god knows what with it.
That plus the ads. The fucking ads. I’m so god damn tl saturated of seeing ads everywhere. But apparently most folks have grown some kind of immunity to it??
My highly non-technical SO cursed Microsoft when they pushed that shit into her computer. She didn’t need to understand what AI means, it took space on her task bar and showed useless notifications. Making her annoyed by the space taken, disturb her focus and slow her computer.
She is stuck on Windows due to a tool she is dependent upon. Already asked me to install Linux on her computer once she have a replacement that will work on Linux.
tl;dr: non technical people are too pissed at MS.
Nah you’re not alone. I’ve despised ads in any form since I can remember. It should be forbidden to hijack my brain with manipulative intrusion. For me marketeers are the lowest and most worthless beings in existence. Humanity could really do better than this crap.
Some ads I really enjoy though. They’re not ALL bad. But it’s the quantity and how they’ve just become omnipresent. Especially with these god damn smart phones. Constantly trying to get our attention.
That’s a lawsuit waiting to happen.
No enterprise is going to want to deal with that and realistically they’re the only ones with the pockets to fight that battle. Hope I’m wrong though. Microsoft needs a swift kick in the ass.
If introducing Copilot to server degrades service enough to trigger an SLA upstream, you can absolutely bet lawyers will get involved.
If introducing Copilot to server degrades service enough to trigger an SLA upstream, you can absolutely bet lawyers will get involved.
If introducing Copilot to server degrades service enough to trigger an SLA downstream, you can absolutely bet lawyers will get involved.
There’s no need to degrade performance to get a lawsuit, the simple fact of extrading data can get you in a tribunal, especially from customers with high privacy requirements, or with European sovereign clouds certifications
Or if CoPilot starts exfiltrating data to Microsoft so their server farms can ‘analyze’ it.
I’m not heavily involved in the space, but I’m given to understand that MS isn’t very clear about what happens to your data or how it gets used or shared.
Perhaps Microsoft will be smart enough not to allow the general public to query trade secrets or government data that’s been pulled via unwanted copilot integration.
But maybe the ongoing Russian hack of Microsoft will make it irrelevant, because the servers can be accessed directly.
Or perhaps at some distant time, Microsoft will roll out features or technologies developed using an internal version of CoPilot that has access to all data - including proprietary information from competitors.And that’s not even counting what ISP’s will do if they find a way to analyze copilot traffic, or what state actors will do if they can set up MitM attacks for Copilot.
Honestly, I sort of fear the repercussions, but I look forward to the lawsuits.
I thought the Microsoft technologies designed to allow anyone to access your servers were called Exchange and Active Directory.
Please explain more.
I’m not confident they are authoritative on the matter.
Don’t consider me to be, either, but I have more details in my response to them.
I read their message as a joke that AD was an easy vector for an adversary
Usually those are the ones all those companies and organizations are using who have their files encrypted by malware.
Yes that’s because pretty much all companies use AD and exchange is also popular (but less so now with exchange online)
Both are also extremely valuable for companies and thus attackers.
Ransomware attacks pretty much always rely on missconfiguration and/or social engineering.
Correlation != Causation.
Now, on the other hand, the number of breaches has gone way up recently. Microsoft has pushed AD and Exchange into the cloud recently. And they just had several instances where keys were stolen and passwords were left in the clear for months after they were notified, as well…
Well we have no solid evidence but it’s certainly within the realm of possibility.
Exchange allows users to access data and Microsoft services and it comes with good documentation and a whole slew of controls for org admins.
Active Directory provides authentication services, and it is mostly for your internal users (so they can access org services, including Exchange), but it’s very common to allow guests and to federate under certain circumstances, so your AD talks to their AD and external guests can authenticate and use resources that have been shared with them.
It is also well-documented with tight control in the hands of administrators.Copilot is a black box. Their terms of service are vague. Microsoft’s responsible AI website comprises of marketing speak, no details, and the standards guide on the site is mostly questions that amount to “TBD”. Administrative ability to control data sharing is non-existent, not yet developed, or minimal.
We don’t know the scope of data gathered, the retention and handling policies, or where that data/any models built from that data are going to wind up.
My read is that they’re waiting to be sued or legislated before they impose any limits on themselves.
Great
Can anyone backup this claim?
