Got to get that body count up these suckers be falling from the skies. Exponential Madness. Slippery Slope. We’re all falling down the mountain, grasping for a short rope. Mass hysteria gaslighting clowns, limp dick leadership. Fly to your vacay as the nukes are dropping. YOLO. A world in denial. The show must go on. Welcome to the world of the billionaire welfare queen. The Liberals open the door for their devil. This was always the case. The Sun whorshippers, breed-like rats and whorship idols. Singing their coping mechanisms of toxic positive optimism. Who the hell needs to watch movies anymore? Clown, clown show, clown show. Capitalism in Crisis, everybody’s goose stepping. It’s easy to destroy but difficult to build. lowest common denominator.
Sir this is a highly confused Wendys…
What about people like myself who have POTS and can’t be in a standing position for too long? My heart can legit stop causing me to pass out if I’m standing for too long.
Then don’t book standing seats?
Why should I have to be forced to pay more for sitting seats just because I have a disability? What if all the sitting seats are fully booked? It’s like intentionally designing a shop with several tall steps at the entrance that would make it impossible for wheelchair users to enter, and the wheelchair users have to pay each time they shop there to have a ramp extended at the entrance so they can enter. It’s an example of ablest design.
I get your point and I believe people with a disability should get a sitting seat for the same price.
However, this can actually reduce the price for the sitting seat as well. As now more people will be able to fit in the airplane. Meaning that more people can share the costs of the plane. The whole goal of this is to be able to offer lower prices by lowering the costs.
In countries with a high amount of competition this is a good thing, of course in places where there isn’t you already have a situation in place where you are already being screwed, and then something such as this won’t help.
Life is more expensive when you’re disabled. That’s not news. But why should you be mad about changes that help other people save money? What you should be mad about is that the savings are turned into extra profits instead of going towards making your tickets cheaper.
This extreme capitalism is absurd and needs to end. People like to pretend that the state taking over industry is some radical thing, but it’s the only way to make it function correctly. Capitalists have not demonstrated an ability to handle anything, they’re like toddlers.
No, the problem is consumers buying the products.
If everybody refused to use the standing seats, they’d eventually HAVE to get rid of them, there’d be no point in having a chunk of the plane empty.
Communists be like, “we must unite to stop capitalists destroying the planet! Now where’s that planet destroying steak I paid for…”
So you do support collective action against corporate tyranny? Lmao
What? What does union organising have to do with consumer responsibility?
My point is that communists love sitting around WAITING for someone to take drastic systemic overhauls, whilst being seemingly unable to control their own consumer habits.
Communists will destroy the planet idly waiting for capitalism to end because “I’m a slave under capitalism, I have to drive everywhere, I have to eat meat”
I never said anything about unions. I was talking about an organized boycott. That’s the only way to achieve what you are talking about.
I really don’t understand what you’re talking about with regard to communists. Are you talking about random people you know?
Maybe you mean folks who say “there is no ethical consumption under capitalism”? I really don’t follow.
passengers hanging outside not before 2030
This looks like a pain in the balls in case of turbulence
Some would probably enjoy some turbulence in their ass.
Ryanair be Like
That’s majestic
Honestly, I’m pretty tall and if it gives more room for my legs, I’d like to have the option
No idea who fetterman is, I just image-searched “tall man in plane”
Why do you assume there will be leg room?
Presumably standing seats means standing up? Hopefully not squatting seats.
Is this gonna be another stand vs. squat debate?
This. The who point is to cram more seats than they are currently able
If you can stand up in a plane outside of the aisle, you’re not tall.
Will the height be adjustable? Otherwise the sitting thing will be either way to low or poking the backs of most people.
Insert short people dangling from them like kids from walkers xD
I’ve always imagined it would be like the seats on a stand-up rollercoaster, which are admittedly pretty comfortable; but if they don’t allow you to adjust the height, it could be hell for both short and tall people
Finally more leg room… But now your head bumps against the ceiling and you need to have your head tilted for the entire flight
I have to lean sideways anyway because my shoulders are too broad and the side of the plane is round.
There’s so much about flying that sucks as a big person.
My knees are folded up to my chest. I’m leaning to the right to stay off the fuselage. I can’t be in an aisle seat because I’m in the way of the crew, and I have to lean forward the whole time because someone is in the seat next to me. And that person hates me.
My dread of the flying experience is why I never go on vacations.
Same answer as above
Most people can’t stand outside of the aisle because this area is meant to be seated (so they put storage space above the head). If the area outside the aisle is meant to be stood (not sure of my english), and they don’t remove the storage above the head, people are in their right to luigi those decision makers.
*stood -> standing
I stand corrected
Is that fetterman?
Is he a drooling clown in a hoodie and shorts?
Can I just sit on the floor like on a train in Poland?
Thats outdated thing, Polish trains now require You to play tetris, stack layers, that somehow doesn’t disappear. It’s like first person do sit on floor, then 2nd person sit on 1st, then 3rd sit on 2nd, and so on. Lucky ones who sit on toilet instead.
If you do not sit on the toilet, you become the toilet.
You need to fly somewhere? Okay, fuck you.
These standing seats have been coming next year for the past decade, but they always failed safety tests. Planes need to be evacuated within a certain time frame, which does not work when the plane is too densely packed.
Can’t they go Middle Earth on them and just create more doors?
I think we should relax rules on how quickly it is to evaluate a plane, and focus more on keeping the plane in the sky. (looking at you Boeing)
I’d love sleeping pods or bunk beds on a plane and accept the higher risk of not being able to get out quickly.
Cars and probably even train are infinitely more dangerous and we accept those risks every day.
And if we are making rules about exiting a plane it should apply to when the plane lands normally. There is absolutely no reason it takes 30+ mints to get the fuck off the plane once we’ve arrived at the gate
That would mean getting rid of carry-on and deploying emergency chutes every time which costs 10s of thousands to replace each time and grounds the plane for weeks. Makes sense.
Why not both?
There is no legitimate reason why trains or cars should be more dangerous modes of transport than flights. It is just that the lobbies for cars and capitalist train operations successfully desensitized everyone to it, so “deadly car crash” is just shrugged away. In the US we see similar attempts to make planes less safe and just accept the numbers of people killed in preventable events.
IDK about trains, but the problem with cars is that we let people operate them with minimal training and practically no oversight. You see shit on roads daily where if the driver was flying a plane, they wouldn’t even be let on as a passenger anymore ever.
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We could increase the training requirements and oversight. We could design road-networks in a way that makes speeding more difficult and enact stricter speed limits.
Whenever these measures are taking in an area they greatly reduce the number of people killed or seriously injured.
We could increase the training requirements and oversight.
I wish.
And who’s going to tell all those people that they are not going to drive again, ever? In pilot training, even showing signs of bravado or machismo is grounds for getting failed. The problem is that if you do that those people will go and vote you out, especially in this climate.
One of the main campaign promises of the idiot who got the most votes in the last Dutch election was to put the speed limits back to 130 kmh from the reduced 100 kmh on motorways. People like to be dumb.
BTW it would take minimal effort to enforce highway speed limits with cameras checking entry and exit times and distances. In some places with road tolls, it wouldn’t even need any more data collection. A single SQL query would return all those people doing 100 kmh over on the motorways. Wonder why outside of a few outliers, nobody does it.
people don’t like wasting time in traffic and will happily take a slightly higher death rate to get it.
We are not talking about the inherent danger of driving, but the danger caused by people either physically or psychologically unfit to drive. The problem is not highways with speed limits of 130 kmh, but the people driving 240 on them, or the people driving drunk, running red lights, etc.
And as SUV sales show, most people are not comfortable with higher death rates for themselves, but are okay with endangering others. Ironically though, SUVs are more dangerous for their drivers as well, so apparently people are going for a perception of safety rather than actual safety even for themselves.
One big reason why mass transit is and always will be (part of) the correct answer: Don’t have to fear taking away peoples’ privelege to drive if transit it there to get them around afterward.
I don’t think loosening regulations in one place will help in other places.
Did the stronger younger people try pushing the frail and children out of the way during these safety tests? Because I feel like the plane world empty quickly in that scenario
dont give them ideas!
“Do you feel capable of opening the exit in case of an emergency?”
– Yes.
“Do you feel capable of throwing the old woman behind you of of the window in case of an emergency?”
– What?
“Do you know how to punch someone unconscious if they fall to hysteria in case of an emergency?”
– I would like to leave the plane now.
For a second I thought “Low quality cropping” was a new c/ being announced.
It could be
I can’t wait to see people passing out or getting injured because of these seats.
What could go wrong standing for two hours… Nothing probably if you’re a healthy young individual
honestly might even be more healthy
Only if you do it on a regular basis, not a one-shot like this (if you do not stand a lot usually).
Also, Turbulence!
apparently trombosis is a rather large problem even when flying only occasionally for vacations. That’s what I meant.
But yeah, turbulences could give you a headache lol
See, this is an example of Hopium. Or toxic positive optimism. Tech Bro shit. But I think you’re joking. I hope you’re joking.
How fat you would have to be to pass out from standing for 2 hours?
Right? And we should just take all the unfit people and just put them in camps and create a perfect society, right? Like, I get angry at America for being so fat, but not because they’re fat. I get angry at how far down the pipeline we have gone of lowest common denominator thinking. To the point where we just eat poisonous food that our body doesn’t know how to process and just stores as fat. Also, capitalism is in crisis. With lowest common denominator thinking add a little slippery slope and the power in the hands of the few with a sprinkling of toxic positive optimism with the cherry of Hopeium and now we’ve got out of touch shithead sundae. I mean, people are claustrophobic and, you know, I think the claustrophobic element makes it even worse when you’re crammed with other people. Some of the outbursts that we see on planes is not just people losing their minds, but it’s also that people are crampacked in a plane. I can see a lot more mental episodes with this type of seating Structure. And I get angry at society cheering on diminishing returns for the working class, while the billionaires are making money over hand over fist. They justify rich people to be in charge of things and to profit, but they still have yet to innovate and give us the future that they said they were going to. We’re being lied to and this is just an example of you getting dominated.
Just wait til they stick these on international flights. You’ll stand 14 hours and you’ll love it, peasant.
I don’t know about how much fat it might take, but my 2 knee surgeries and both my deteriorating hip joints, (been searching eBay for a good used hip joint for cheap), tell me that standing for 2 hours is a painful idea.
They will lock in place and you will be gucci for 10 hours
Afterwards you just ask this 6’3 bear like guy to give you a slight kick and off the ramp you slide out like a newborn out of uterus
So would I need up upgrade to First Class to get that kind of service?
I was kicked out of the plane in any class. I don’t think this is class dependent.
It speeds things up if you put a Burger King hat on and enact a scene out of 19th century cotton farm plantations.
People will literally jump to fix your joints for free. Thats how much they love classic American themes
I’m skinny and I’ll pass out in less than an hour. Have severe POTS from EDS, heart went into asystole after 35 minutes into a tilt table test and they had to put me back down. I’ve passed out several times in other settings.
So you got a skip journey button and you say this is a bad thing?
People are often advised to not lock their knees for a long time while standing (ex: marching band, or standing at attention in the military), and you cannot force anyone to have healthy posture. The ergonomics of these seats appear to take some of the load off the legs and feet, but it’s something to consider for patrons with more sedentary lifestyles. Many people believe themselves to be fit individuals until they are placed in uncomfortable conditions for a long time or experience unexpected stress. They could manage to injure themselves in some way, then find some reason to litigate.
There’s an idea. Flights that people can make standing, should be banned, except when there is a body of water between the destination.
Airlines: “You’re not gonna believe what clouds are made of…”
I declare clouds are not a body of water, merely a spirit of water.
Almost mist that joke
Oh, yes corporations. I guess body of Liquid water then. 😂
Edit: 2x2 Km minimum size.
Next step - put bicycle seats, reducent material for backs. Then add bicycle pedals for engines, to reduce fuel usage. None said anything about actually reducing ticket price by that, high prices stays forever.
None said anything about actually reducing ticket price by that, high prices stays forever.
Standard ticket if you generate at least 1KW, otherwise the price goes up if you generate less, with a fine for less then 50W generated during the flight
Bet You will have to pay max price front. For security reason.
Possible overpaid (in case You return some electricity), are returned in form of credit points for next purchase!
I’d pay extra to not have to deal with the TSA as well.
The Security Theater is non-negotiable. It’s there to maintain fear. Those that created the Security Theater are the ones that create the terrorism.
How people can look at (mostly) state owned rail vs private airlines and still think the free market benefits the average person is one of life’s big mysteries to me.
I mean, Trump won the vote, and Brexit won the vote… Something tells me it’s as simple as most people are fucking stupid.
