When we go out for sushi with friends we usually order as a group and order a couple of specialty rolls for the table at a time, sometimes making several orders through the evening as time and appetites allow. The idea is manifold: not to over-order food, to spread out food delivery as we drink sake and socialize, to “pipeline” work for the chefs who we understand have other tables to service, and finally because sushi is best when it’s fresh so why order it all up front tonlet it get dry and get manky while we get around to it?
Almost as an afterthought, but also how is the fish tonight? Several smaller orders let us explore what’s “on” and what’s “off” this evening, and modify pur ordering strategy.
The question comes up because our server (a delightful young lady who was all to happy to “spill tea” with us) let us know the chef was annoyed our table was making multiple orders. Yes they were a bit busy, but it’s not like there was a line at the door either.
What say you? Was Chef jumped up his own ass tonight, or were we egregiously out of line ordering food over a couple of rounds?
I never tip because that only serves to lower the wages of employees.
Then don’t go out to eat at places that take tips.
You aren’t helping the problem, you’re just an asshole.
Thanks for the tip (pun intended), but I usually do not. However, most establishments that rely on tips are not upfront about it in any capacity.
Yeah because it’s understood. By all the people not working hard to resist understanding that is.
You are indeed just being an asshole, with the thinnest possible excuse that nobody other than yourself believes.
Yeah, I am an asshole for actually caring about worker’s rights… Have you seen a single union that is pro tipping?
Not tipping doesn’t fix this problem, it just makes someone get payed less. If you want to fix the issue, regulate it out of existence. You aren’t changing the culture, you’re just being a bit of a dick.
Giving people money makes them receive less money.
— Microfinancial doublespeak
Just in case it wasn’t clear, when one is not tipping, they are very literally not giving people money. The only “people” you are giving money to are the owners of the service, not the wage workers you may otherwise have tipped.
Sorry, but you are wrong. I am not from Burgerland and tipping is not the standard here. I will not contribute to normalizing it either just because some restaurants hate their employees.
Tipping occasionally doesn’t cause this problem either.
Being vocal about never tipping implies that it’s an exceptional stance for some reason. If that’s the norm where you live, why does it need to be mentioned?
Nothing on Lemmy is posted on basis of “needs to be mentioned”, which kind of makes your question moot. Tipping causes lower wages because it relieves the employers of the obligation of paying their workers. Also, I am talking about systemic change, so what is “occasional” or otherwise conditional is not really a valid counter to the general point.
Norms are susceptible to change. Just as they are perhaps changing for the worse where I live, it could change for the better somewhere else. This is dependant on people not being idiots, so I am rooting for you.
Literally everything on Lemmy was said for a reason. Bad reasons exist, but I like to give people the benefit of the doubt.
Tipping doesn’t “cause” lower wages. Tipping becoming an expected social norm can cause that, or exacerbate it. But you as an individual choosing not to tip doesn’t really impact that. It certainly doesn’t effect systemic change. If the norm is already present, all you’re doing is literally lowering one individual’s wages by not tipping them, and if it’s not then what you’re doing is making a statement to that individual (ranging from “I come from America” to “you were really exceptional”).
Yeah, I just love defying the existence of causal relations. Sigh. It is not like you are totally misquoting me and yourself at all here and making “needs to be said” into “literally any fucking reason to say something”.
Maybe my original idea was to create awareness around an issue to maximize my individual impact? (this is also the reason why above, though it still does not count as on a “need to be said”-basis that you first introduced as the bar for saying something).
So now I already spent way too many words to make something clear that you only wanted to obfuscate in, what I assume must be, bad faith. Lastly, another obvious thing is that contributing to a greater whole is actually contributing towards it. Therefore I also care about my personal actions that say contribute towards climate change.
You are free to look at the statistics of how many more are paid less than the minimum wage (where that even needs to be a thing) in professions with tipping than those without. Also, please tip your teachers, cashiers at the grocery store, bus driver, garbage man, etc… It is very nice when employers can use their god given right to labour without adequate compensation. You only make the world better by doing so because they get more $$$$$!
And by that logic max providing life-saving treatment causes death because it prevents the weeding out of the weaker genes.
No, it does not because that is not how genes work. You are also not applying logic properly (and no, being wrong twice does not make it more right). A better analogy would be throwing garbage into the sea. Sure there might be some scraps of food on it that animals may eat, but you are also in fact contributing to killing them.