I just got banned from linux@lemmy.ml, which seems to be the biggest Linux community out there.
For context, it was about the recent Vaxerski incident, where I shared my personal opinion about the whole gender stuff. I wasn’t even trying to be hurtful against anyone, just shared my 2 cents in an already ongoing conversation.
Sure, ine might not agree with my opinion, and I don’t agree with others, and this is totally normal. But at least we should be able to have sane and respectful conversations where no one is insulting each other, or anyone else… without having a mod intervening into the conversation
So to all the mods out there: Your personal opinion does not give you the right to delete comments and block users, just because their opinions don’t align with yours!
lol. The disconnect.
I think the ban was a little too harsh, but removing that comment was the right decision.
I also see a few problems with your “your highness” comparison:
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“Your highness” is an official title, not a personal designation. Its proper usage depends heavily on the context, e.g. the perceived social rank and status, how well people know each other, if it’s a formal or informal conversation, and so on. Pronouns have none of that, you just use the one people identify as and that’s it.
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It implies that people just pick whatever term they can come up with to mess with others or to mock them. People don’t choose a pronoun lightly, they usually think about it a lot and it’s an important personal decision. They also usually pick one of the common pronouns, so it’s really not hard to just use it.
Making quick logical comparisons regarding social norms is a very tricky thing in my experience. There are many things going on that we aren’t fully aware of all of the time, and getting it wrong can hurt people badly.
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Why do you think it’s absurd to use proper pronouns? No it’s not absurd, it’s just being a decent human being.
Yeah, I don’t see it any different from a person that says
“I want to be called Micheal, not Mike”
Clearly Mike needs to stop being absurd.
Mike is being such a Micheal!
Totally agree, opinion shouldn’t enter into such decisions. It’s emotional immaturity to do so.
You lost me at “immaturity” here.
Why is that? Many don’t have it or the credibility to determine what’s accurate or not.
Because you don’t call grownups immature. It’s dumb.
Well, some alleged grownups are exactly that. Especially ones that believe our western propaganda without critical thinking skills.
What you describe may be undesirable behaviors, but that’s not immaturity.
Lack of critical thinking, stubbornness, indoctrination, ignorance, whatever you want to call it. Not immaturity.
sorry buddy but you did transphobia. whether or not you are in the mood to label it as such that’s what it was.
i have beef with power tripping mods as much as you but this is in no way an example of that.
edit: also it was a three day ban? i have seen folks permabanned for similar. be thankful you are allowed to return, look inwards and do some self examination instead of complaining.
Just in case the mod responsible is here in the room with us, just wanted to say thank you.
Well, my @programming.dev account got banned!
I guess, I’ll just have to shut up, and just keep posting memes. 🤷🏻
Thanks for telling on yourself so I can block this account too. Please continue replying with any more alts you have so I don’t miss any.
wait, you can block my account even if you’re not on lemmy.world?
Hi adONis,
a “block” is not a “ban”. e.i. : if I have account ABC and from that ABC account I block user 123 then, from ABC I cannot read anything posted by 123 but I would be able to read 123’s posts from my other accounts (and so would anybody else).oh ok, I thought the previous OP was some kind of mod on one of the instances I had signed up for.
thx for clarifying 👍
Maybe truth social is more appropriate for you.
I got banned there too for not being any kind of phobic 😥
Welcome to my block list. I guess I’m power tripping.
What you fail to understand is that in cyberspace, people can do whatever they want to do.
You say mods don’t have this or that right, but rights don’t enter into it. They have that power, and they use that power.
ML is a brittle place based on a lie. Expecting them to behave in a fair way toward opinions was extremely naive of you.
I’ve heard about them, but I thought this was only in (political) communities I don’t even participate in.
Just say they. Not he/she. They. End of argument.
Refusing to treat people with the barest minimum of respect is not a “personal opinion”, it’s behavior that no space should tolerate.
barest minimum of respect
what’s that even supposed to mean? If I talk to someone like I do with everyone else, without changing my tone/or opinion based on whatever race/religion/identity they go by, then I certainly am treating everyone with the same amount of respect.
We’ve lived for millennia now, and I don’t recall a single book where a person of the past was mentioned in addition with their pronoun, in the sense of “____ was a writer/artist/mathematician in the late 1800s who went by they/them”… etc.
We’re introducing unnecessary complications into an already complicated society we live in.
What’s up with people changing their names after marriage or adoption too‽
Why does everyone refer to her as Marie Curie instead of Maria Skłodowska. It’s just soo unnecessarily complicated to have to use a different name than the one assigned at birth.
And yet no one is referring to Kim as Kim Kardashian West, but still Kim Kardashian.
Because that’s how she’s told people she prefers to be called, that’s how she still brands her social media.
People respecting somebody else’s choice for how to refer to them is literally the example that is the worst for your argument.
Have you ever wondered why that is? LGBTQ and non-binary people existed in the 19th century too, they just weren’t safe to live as they chose to publicly. And when it was mentioned in literature it was typically couched in euphemisms of the period. I understand that you’d clearly prefer all these people go back in the closet rather than be inconvenienced by having to acknowledge their existence, but are you really daft enough to think this is something dreamed up in the 2010s? For fuck sake…
ok, then what about the 16th century, 5th, 2nd, 100 B.C, 200 B.C?
Yes, homosexuality and non-gender conforming individuals have existed throughout human history and across all cultures with varying social attitudes toward them. You know, you’re quite opinionated for someone with no demonstrable understanding of the topic, but I suppose that explains a lot.
You’re talking as if transgenderism and homosexuality (and their problems) emerged in the 19th century. That’s why I asked you about the other centuries?
Pederasty was a socially acceptable thing back in 600 b.c amongst the Etruscans, for example.
I neither said nor implied any such thing. You brought up books written in the 1800s which is why my initial reply specifically focused on the 19th century. You’re either dumb or you’re here in bad faith, but based on your last sentence, being a weak attempt to shift the conversation from LGBTQ and non-binary people to pederasts, which is straight out of the right-wing playbook, it’s safe to assume the latter. So we’re done here.
This wiki page, not itself as an original source but as a collection of original papers in the references for you to peruse at your leisure is a great starting point. But your question is a bit like the “Did you know Aristotle never said ‘Thank You’? Mostly because he didn’t speak English.” Joke. You are expecting modern accommodations and language in texts from a different era that would have used unfamiliar forms or language like ancient Egypt that had a 3rd gender “sekhet”.
I shared my personal opinion about the whole gender stuff.
Keep your shitty opinions that don’t concern others to yourself. Seems like people are not interested
Downvote it to oblivion then, but disagreeing or not being interested is no reason to remove a post.
Edit: Saw the post. I think the removal was valid, but the ban was a little harsh. And not being interested had nothing to do with it.
