If the owner of the standard notes will now be a proton, doesn’t that contradict this principle? I have a proton email account but I don’t want it linked to my standard notes account. I don’t strongly trust companies that offer packaged services like google or Microsoft. I prefer to have one service from one company. I am afraid that now I will have to change where I save my notes. What do you guys think about this?

  • survivalmachine@beehaw.org
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    7 months ago

    Maybe Logseq, too.

    +FOSS like Joplin and unlike Obsidian +plaintext markdown files like Obsidian and unlike Joplin’s janky database -less feature-rich than obsidian -blovk-bas3d instead of note-based, so a slight paradigm-shift is required

    • catnash [she/her, ae/aer]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      7 months ago

      I regret I’m probably never escaping Obsidian. For a closed-source piece of software it has such a beautiful ecosystem of themes and plugins. I love to use it for writing my blog articles, and the mostly strict adherence to the markdown spec, the HTML rendering and plugins that add support for Pandoc (and Zotero)…

      But by default I can’t seem to get Logseq in that space, even if I really want to, where I only organise files based on metadata and folders.

      • LWD@lemm.ee
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        7 months ago

        How do you get “trapped” in it? I’ve never used it seriously, but my last experiment on Android requires you to create a folder to write Markdown files to. Which seems about as portable as any app can possibly be; it could disappear from your devices tomorrow, and you’d still have all your stuff, right?

        FWIW Markor also lets you edit Markdown files locally on Android, and it’s probably a far cry from Obsidian but it could easily serve as a drop-in replacement in such a scenario.

        • catnash [she/her, ae/aer]@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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          7 months ago

          It’s not about the files, I’m very happy with files being local and easily synced and messed with. It is as you say, you create a folder which Obsidian reads as a “vault” and create .md files and folders in there, plus the hidden folders that let Obsidian organise plugins…

          But I’m also not exclusively using it on Android, it’s my desktop driver for just about everything text. Especially please with the community plugins which make it extremely accessible for someone with additional needs when it comes to reading or writing, the recent improvements to tables and the plugins that integrate it with Pandoc and Zotero.

          I was never able to replace what it was with anything except maybe Logseq, and even the Logseq couldn’t replace all of the functionality and theming. I tried living a few days in Logseq, just moving my vault there, but it didn’t work so well.

          It’s not a major issue, I would like to move to FOSS but it’s not an emergency like moving away from Google is an emergency.

          • LWD@lemm.ee
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            7 months ago

            Thanks for the detailed answer! I was aware of the community plugins (and I’m very pleased Obsidian isn’t trying to sell them to anyone) but wasn’t sure if there was anything else going on under the hood… Plugin configuration definitely makes sense.

            And gives me an excuse to start exporting the stuff I’ve got in my local Standard Notes instance too. I like their interface, but their mobile clients kept throwing me out by switching to the default server, and the web client disabled non-official synching too, so I’m starting to like the idea of having an actual copy of the notes rather than hoping SN doesn’t have another fit.

            • catnash [she/her, ae/aer]@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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              7 months ago

              Again, depending on your needs perhaps Logseq is fine. It seems that developers of each app (Logseq and Obsidian namely) have this expectation of how users want to use their apps but in my experience they are both configurable to use Tags, Folders or Links to organise content. This lets you take notes and organise in several ways.

              Logseq is FOSS, Obsidian is not and is more popular (thus larger community plugins/themes ecosystem). That’s the main difference.

              I would love for someone to walk me around what SN can do and walk someone around what Obsidian can do.

    • T (they/she)@beehaw.org
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      7 months ago

      My biggest issue with Logsec is the CLA signing. I still use it but don’t feel like contributing to it anymore

    • LWD@lemm.ee
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      7 months ago

      You can add two spaces at the end of every line to manually trigger
      a line break

        • LWD@lemm.ee
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          7 months ago

          Maybe, but I’m pretty sure “end a line in two spaces to ensure a line break is inserted” is standard Markdown. I can see the source fine but not the formatted comment.

        • catnash [she/her, ae/aer]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          7 months ago

          Eternity doesn’t render that fine and neither do any of the websites and frontends I’ve tried. It’s likely Raccoon in specific renders this as you intended, but it is in the markdown spec — that Lemmy mostly follows — that “strictly” two line breaks are needed to render one line break in HTML.

          It isn’t very “what you see is what you get”…

    • noodlejetski@lemm.ee
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      7 months ago

      I just wish any of them had a native Android UI instead of a weird, janky mess that is Logseq and iOS clone in Obsidian.

      • LWD@lemm.ee
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        7 months ago

        It seems like apps are all using web apps as a shortcut for deploying cross platform functionality. Which is sometimes fine until you run into compatibility or UI issues like those.

        • noodlejetski@lemm.ee
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          7 months ago

          I mean yeah, I get it, and I know the same’s the reason behind everyone and their dog using Electron, but in both cases the result is… not great.