Would like to hear your perspective on this
Considering I go around telling people to install NixOS, that sounds about right.
Seriously though, Apple stuff is usually 90%* of the way there with how I want my devices to work. I don’t miss Android at all honestly, on the desktop it’s a lot closer. So much so that when I use my Linux computer, I miss stuff from macOS and when I use my MacBook, I miss stuff from Linux. (I really really wish there was a GNUstep-based Linux desktop on par with KDE. I should get back to messing around with GNUstep, I wanted to look into getting Wayland support fixed, but too many projects.)
* Let’s hope the EU gives that another couple % for the iPhone.
It’s just a stupid phone brand, it doesn’t mean anything.
Fuck em. I don’t want to talk to them anyway. If having a phone preference different than them is a problem
The phone you use doesn’t say anything about your tech insights. Why should it?
However, it may tell you something about the kinds of things the person values. If price matters, you’ll go with the cheapest Android. If features matter, you’ll go with a flagship Android. If privacy matters, you’ll get a specific Android phone and install GrapheneOS on it.
There are also a variety of reasons for getting an iPhone, and they may reflect your values in some way.
There are also a variety of reasons for getting an iPhone, and they may reflect your values in some way.
Yummy. Tell me more
It matches my Stanley
Some people like the looks. Some people buy one because it serves as a status symbol. Some people just go with the flow and buy one, simply because everyone else already has one. Some people appreciate the coherent UI. Some people already use various other Apple products and services, so they prefer to get the synergy of also using an iPhone.
I don’t really care much about any of those things, but I have some special software and hardware that only works with vanilla or OEM Android and iOS. Trust me, I tried lots of different tweaks and hacks, but eventually had to face the harsh reality that nowadays things are specifically designed to prevent people like me from doing whatever I want. If things had worked with Lineage or Graphene, I would obviously be using those instead. Since that isn’t the case, I had to pick the least offensive one from a list of two awful options. This decisions shows that I value the compatibility that comes with an iPhone.
I’m sure there are lots of other reasons too.
Back in the day, iPhones ran more and better games. I just never switched to Android. To be fair, I’m also currently rocking a four year old iPhone and will continue to do so until it dies. We’ll see what happens from there… I’ll probably just try and get it fixed.
I bought a refurbished €100 iPhone SE the year before last, and it’s survived being dropped literally scores of times, awful charging practices, and nobody else wants it. Before that, it was a €125 6+ that I got rid of because it was too big and made my hand hurt. Before that it was an iPhone 4 that was given to me in 2012, which only died when I ran it over with a car.
My reasons are: free/cheap, easy profile transfer, high functionality regardless of how I treat it.
100%, I’m not tech savvy, especially for lemmy standards (I don’t get asked to do tech things for family, but I can generally troubleshoot problems I encounter). I am cheap regarding time and money though, and it’s simply economics. If you’ve got a consistent android alternative where I can spend €375 (assuming the first wasn’t free, but a similar price to the others) for three phones (or fewer) that function well for my purposes (browser, data heavy apps, and a lot of dumb screenshots) over 12 years, I’m down.
I’m still running an original 2016 SE and even 8 years after release it’s still going strong and getting updates, the only reason I’m looking to upgrade is because it’s a struggle to keep it charged all day even with a battery bank case. Idk why all new phones are so massive now but I hate that I can’t find anything anywhere near the same size as the SE.
Mine’s also an original SE, I just got it refurbished 😅 The battery it came with is still going strong, though I also have an external battery pack because I got really into Pokémon go, so I’m not relying on its battery much.
I have had to change iPhone batteries before and replacement batteries weren’t super expensive (€40-70, with a proprietary set of tools that is something like €20). Now that I have a cat it would be a challenge, but it’s not too complicated if you watch a walk-through first and keep track of your screws.
There’s plenty of complete tech idiots on both sides and geniuses on both sides. Lemmy is hardcore Linux, everything should be free. Anything apple is shit on.
Anything apple is shit on.
Because Apple is a horrible company, not because of the technical knowledge of its users.
The users are shit on.
Anything apple is shit on.
Uh ooh…
Some people purchase a phone based on looks, some for customization, others for specific apps, some it comes just down to what they can afford
I can come up with strong reasons to use Window or MacOS as your primary desktop os. IOS or Android as your phone OS. Windows / Linux / BSD for a server or appliance OS.
If someone thinks one size fits all THEY are the ones that should not be trusted in terms of tech insights.
Spot on and a great view point.
Agreed.
I can’t think of on3 scenario that windows is the best option for a server. I mean unless its its a virtual desktop for a thin client but still usually would run that in a Linux vm
can’t think of on3 scenario that windows is the best option for a server.
There are plenty of enterprise scenarios: eg an AD server for Windows clients, a DFS server, or servers to run certain Windows-only applications such as SCCM etc.
So windows is the right option only when it’s the only one
BSD has a very narrow set of benefits over Linux based systems I could say the same for BSD which mostly amounts to network appliances / firewalls these days. I would say NAS but Even trueNAS is moving toward linux.
I think a lot of the ios lemmy users are actually early stage converts. Some know, some dont. Since a large portion of lemmy (and especially the linux community) is made up of anti social trolls, these converts to be might never actually hop over since they think they‘re stupid and unworthy for the „god-OS“ that only „the truly enlightened understand“.
Obviously this is mostly cynical bitterness speaking from the really bad interactions I had with people who dont know shit about computers but like to lord their tiny and specific knowledge advantage over others to bolster their egos from their moms basement.
That said, apple has decent hardware and the fact that we havent broken their asshole bootloaders so we can actually root their devices properly shows that they’re not that stupid. But no, you should not use apple (or stock android I guess) if you have the tech knowledge and funds to switch.
Disclaimer: this is just my opinion. I‘m fine with disagreement. Trolls will be blocked immediately.
If all your friends have an apple phone it’s easy to buy one too. They have some features that makes having an android in an apple friend group quite anoying. For example the classic: “I’m going to air drop you the picture.” And then only after every apple user in the room has got the picture they think about sending it the classic way to the outsider. It doesn’t sound like much, but it doesn’t just happen with air drop, but with a lot of those features. Source: I’m the android guy in an apple friend group.
They all are far from techy… I think it’s wrong to generalize, but I think if you don’t know shit it’s easier to go with apple. Android usualy is far more customizable, but some people just don’t care and want a phone that just works. And for those apple can be the right option, because in general it’s easier to understand at a first glance.
Yep, I don’t give a shit about AirDrop or even use the ecosystem. Just iPhone and AirPods.
iPhone because I am a discerning consumer whose current life needs fit it better. AirPods because they are best in class for iPhones (yes due to anti consumer policies). In college sure I customized the heck out of my androids.
Now I just want something that runs fast and reliably browses the internet. AdGuard takes care of the rest.
I used to buy proper Samsung/LG flagship Androids and absolutely loved them for my needs at the time. But every single one went to complete shit after 2 years. Huge battery drain, slow and unresponsive, no updates.
My iPhone is 3.5 years old, still blazing fast, battery drain consistent with degradation, still getting updates, still no need to get a new phone.
This entire debate is literally the bell curve soyjack meme lmao but I had fun typing at least!
Ngl I don’t think I’ve ever used airdrop in the last 5 years other than trying to use it once or twice during covid, people weren’t showing up though no matter what my settings were so idk what happened.
Yeah I’ve seen family and friends struggle with airdrop, there are always 1 or 2 it doesn’t work for so they might as well be Android.
You should try LocalSend as an alternative to Airdrop with your Iphone friends!
Doesn’t that only work if everyone is connected to the same WiFi?
So I originally bought one due do family circumstances. A family member was in a heavily HEAVILY censored part of the world- the type of place that you can’t get emails or text messages out of. The type of place where any communication sent over their network WAS being monitored, so you had to speak very carefully.
iMessage was the only 100% reliable method of contact, so I got an iPhone and just haven’t upgraded since.
For context I use all of these daily: Linux (servers + handheld gaming), Windows (gaming), Mac OS (work & general purpose). I used one of the first iPhones around 2008, then exclusively Android for 10 years, and then back to iPhones.
Iphone users of Lemmy, people say not to trust you on tech insights.
IMO, these “people” with such takes are the only ones who shouldn’t be trusted on tech insights here :P
Oh, we are back at being jerks to each other because of phone. Lovely.
IPhone sucks ass. I am saying this as a user. I strongly recommend not using it. I unfortunately took my dad’s iphone after my phone died unexpectedly, so for now I am stuck with it. But user experience is so bad.
Apple user for work phone, Android for personal.
Apple is very easy for the company to manage. Everything I need it to do, they have it set up properly and working without fiddling on my end.
I don’t mind it at a work phone, but still probably wouldn’t get one for personal phone. I am not in love with the apple ecosystem. My Android takes more work to manage but the end result is much more customized to my preferences.
I am not in love with the apple ecosystem.
I feel This is not getting enough attention in this post.
Edit:
The monthlies :(
itune subscription fee : $10 Apple tv: $9
Let’s say you save and take the apple one, still, $20 every month! ($240 every year, recursively) On top of prepaid internet subscriptions!
Am I the only one who’s seeing this?
You might be the only one for whom these words makes sense
What flabbergasts me is that they are okay with it.
I’d be upset if any phone prevented me from subscribing to optional cross-platform features, yes.
How is this relevant to anything at all? If you want a streaming music subscription, you can pay for one. If not, don’t. You can use any service you want on an iPhone, and you can likewise use Apple Music on an Android phone. The availability of services is just a totally separate issue.
You can use any service you want on an iPhone,
Is it possible to play music offline, that one receives from, say whatsapp? Or airdropped from another phone?
Of course you can. The iPhone never lost any of the basic features of the iPod and is perfectly capable of storing and playing DRM-free music in popular formats.
people say not to trust you on tech insights
This reads out like some childish drama nonsense.
Obviously agree with everyone else here, I just wanted to add a personal tangent. Right before the crypto boon back in 2019-2020, I called that AI was going to be the next big thing and to invest in it. Obviously we’re seeing that, but I honestly think we probably only have about another year and a half to 2 of the AI gravy train before it does a dot com burst, and people realize it’s true value. It got so overinflated so fast people will eventually realize it’s just pattern recognition and matching and it can’t solve everything, then it will die down.
The next one that will come is quantum computing in about 6-7 years. Not because it can “compute better than regular computers” but because quantum is able to spit out approximations so much faster than regular computers, it will have a huge boon in cloud based physics rendering, and large dataset analysis.
